On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:21:13 +0100, "True Blue" gmail.com> wrote:

Today's post by
Kurt Brown, alias Saint Ram Bone, surviving FDIC federal bank
examiner of Mobile Audit Club fame.

http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/democracyordeath/

Daily Foreword July 29, 2008: Once again, I, Kurt Brown, Saint Ram Bone,
have come across an interesting predicament in my new and most likely
temporary home of Pensacola, Florida, a city that is gripped by military
inhabitants and a populace that is divided along many lines, especially that
of race and political viewpoint. After all, the military is about
bloodletting and to some extent silent or vocal subservience to an ideology
of war and mayhem and the profit taking therein. And race, to a lesser
degree, or a greater degree, is viewed as a dividing point, or perhaps it is
just that when I dine out on those rare occasions I go to the wrong places
sometimes, too upscale or trendy, like the Sidelines Bar and Grill that I
will mention in Pensacola Beach.

I don't understand why the man was arrested! Shouldn't the nazi sympathizer
who placed it in the museum and put it under armed guard be arrested
instead??? The fact that he WASN'T arrested is VERY scary to me. I am
gravely concerned that Germany is sliding back in to the vile dark depths of
nazi anti-Semitism again. The world must NOT allow this to happen!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/05/germany.hitler/index.html

Richard Shenkman Author of the book "Just How Stupid Are We ?"

Just How Stupid Are We Americans ?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vqDi1Vi-2qo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eE7-j1fBHa0

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The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (German Daily, Jan. 6, 1999, p. 38), once
again, produced an outstanding description of the Jewish Holocaust.

Under the title "The Olympiad of Sufferings" it lists the many holocausts
and sufferings of various nationalities very briefly, but, at the end, the
paper makes it clear, that there is only one real holocaust-grief – Jewish
suffering. However, there cannot be an "Olympiad of Sufferings" since other
nations are not allowed to compete with the Jews for the "Gold medal" at
suffering (that would be called; minimising the Jewish holocaust, and in
Germany that is punishable by law and a five year jail sentence is usually
imposed), it should therefore be more appropriately called "Holympics". A
Holympiad in which only Jewish "professionals" are striving for excellence
and the "GOLD".

And what is one allowed to say in Germany about the holocaust? Only one
sentence of a religious type confession: "We Germans have committed the
worst crime in the history of mankind and gassed 6 million Jews!" Any other
opinion might bring the dangers of the accusation of "belittling" (what ever
that means) the holocaust.

This is the first time I am hearing of this tragedy. Thank you for putting it on the forum.

AA
"History Buff" all.com> wrote in message news:m%%qFj.167232$FE.108216@fe05.news.easynews.com...
Why 7000 Children Had to Die

Second World War:
The Cruel Fate of German Refugees in Denmark

Article from the Hamburger Abendblatt, May 26, 1999;
translated by Arnim Johannis and published here with permission.
This translation © 1999 by The Scriptorium.

(dpa/fis) A new study about the deaths of more than 10,000 German refugees in Denmark shortly before and after the end of the Second World War has startled the public of this Scandinavian country. The discovery that the refugee casualties from 1945 to 1949 included more than 7,000 toddlers and babies who were denied not only adequate rations but also any and all medical aid was described by the Copenhagen newspaper Politiken as "shocking and inhumane".

Equally bad, the newspaper said, is the "massive repression of awareness" of the refugees' fate in Denmark, since to date the Danish have considered it common knowledge and a point of national credit that the 200,000 to 250,000 people who fled to Denmark from the advancing Soviet troops had been accorded highly decent treatment.

Senior physician Kirsten Lylloff has taken a closer look at this myth. Studying history is her hobby, and she had become curious about the great number of graves of German babies and children in a cemetery in Åalborg where she used to live. When she spent six months gathering information, the relevant archives were readily opened to her. The amateur historian was all the more surprised to find numerous shocking statistics and reports, which had never been mentioned in standard historiography to date. And this despite the fact that the time of German occupation of Denmark from April 1940 to May 1945 is more thoroughly researched than any other historical period.

At first, the refugees - 85 percent of them women and children - had been quartered in schools or meeting houses; then, in 1945, 142 camps were set up for these people. The Danish civilians were strictly forbidden to have any contact with the German expellees.

Lylloff's research has shown that in 1945 alone, 13,492 German refugees died in Danish refugee camps. More than 7,000 of them were children under five years of age; most of them died of malnutrition and dehydration and - according to Lylloff - of "perfectly curable" illnesses such as stomach and intestinal infections and scarlet fever. But until 1949 the Danish medical board, as well as the Red Cross, consistently denied the refugees interned in these camps any medical assistance.

"How can one consider babies and toddlers to be enemies?" Kirsten Lylloff counters the argument, routine at war's end, that the Germans were enemies regardless of their age. Jörgen Poulsen, the present Secretary General of the Danish Red Cross, commented on this new study: "It hurts to read this. I hope that we've grown smarter by now." The Copenhagen medical board also stated that the refusal of all pleas for medical attention in those days "cannot be justified, no matter how good the excuses."

Medical board spokesman Torben Pedersen nonetheless joined historians in warning against drawing rash conclusions. He says that after five years' occupation by National Socialist Germany, with a world war and ever-worsening reports about the systematic destruction of the Jews, the political mood in Denmark perforce played a powerful role in determining the attitude towards German refugees.

However, according to Kirsten Lylloff's findings, there was also a pragmatic consideration to the merciless attitude the Danish authorities took towards the refugees: "The medical board stated officially that helping German refugees would harm Denmark's relations with the Allies."

In fact, at the war's end Denmark found it very difficult to dissuade the victorious powers from classifying it as "collaborator". Instead of offering armed resistance, like its Norwegian neighbors for example, the government at Copenhagen had surrendered without a fight to the German Wehrmacht in 1940 and placed their country at Hitler's disposal as a willing supplier of foodstuffs for the Wehrmacht. In return, Denmark was treated relatively mildly by the occupiers and was spared any involvement in the war itself.

Why 7000 Children Had to Die

Second World War:
The Cruel Fate of German Refugees in Denmark

Article from the Hamburger Abendblatt, May 26, 1999;
translated by Arnim Johannis and published here with permission.
This translation © 1999 by The Scriptorium.

(dpa/fis) A new study about the deaths of more than 10,000 German refugees in Denmark shortly before and after the end of the Second World War has startled the public of this Scandinavian country. The discovery that the refugee casualties from 1945 to 1949 included more than 7,000 toddlers and babies who were denied not only adequate rations but also any and all medical aid was described by the Copenhagen newspaper Politiken as "shocking and inhumane".

Equally bad, the newspaper said, is the "massive repression of awareness" of the refugees' fate in Denmark, since to date the Danish have considered it common knowledge and a point of national credit that the 200,000 to 250,000 people who fled to Denmark from the advancing Soviet troops had been accorded highly decent treatment.

Senior physician Kirsten Lylloff has taken a closer look at this myth. Studying history is her hobby, and she had become curious about the great number of graves of German babies and children in a cemetery in Åalborg where she used to live. When she spent six months gathering information, the relevant archives were readily opened to her. The amateur historian was all the more surprised to find numerous shocking statistics and reports, which had never been mentioned in standard historiography to date. And this despite the fact that the time of German occupation of Denmark from April 1940 to May 1945 is more thoroughly researched than any other historical period.

At first, the refugees - 85 percent of them women and children - had been quartered in schools or meeting houses; then, in 1945, 142 camps were set up for these people. The Danish civilians were strictly forbidden to have any contact with the German expellees.

Lylloff's research has shown that in 1945 alone, 13,492 German refugees died in Danish refugee camps. More than 7,000 of them were children under five years of age; most of them died of malnutrition and dehydration and - according to Lylloff - of "perfectly curable" illnesses such as stomach and intestinal infections and scarlet fever. But until 1949 the Danish medical board, as well as the Red Cross, consistently denied the refugees interned in these camps any medical assistance.

"How can one consider babies and toddlers to be enemies?" Kirsten Lylloff counters the argument, routine at war's end, that the Germans were enemies regardless of their age. Jörgen Poulsen, the present Secretary General of the Danish Red Cross, commented on this new study: "It hurts to read this. I hope that we've grown smarter by now." The Copenhagen medical board also stated that the refusal of all pleas for medical attention in those days "cannot be justified, no matter how good the excuses."

Medical board spokesman Torben Pedersen nonetheless joined historians in warning against drawing rash conclusions. He says that after five years' occupation by National Socialist Germany, with a world war and ever-worsening reports about the systematic destruction of the Jews, the political mood in Denmark perforce played a powerful role in determining the attitude towards German refugees.

However, according to Kirsten Lylloff's findings, there was also a pragmatic consideration to the merciless attitude the Danish authorities took towards the refugees: "The medical board stated officially that helping German refugees would harm Denmark's relations with the Allies."

In fact, at the war's end Denmark found it very difficult to dissuade the victorious powers from classifying it as "collaborator". Instead of offering armed resistance, like its Norwegian neighbors for example, the government at Copenhagen had surrendered without a fight to the German Wehrmacht in 1940 and placed their country at Hitler's disposal as a willing supplier of foodstuffs for the Wehrmacht. In return, Denmark was treated relatively mildly by the occupiers and was spared any involvement in the war itself.

Why
7000 Children Had to Die

Second
World War:The Cruel Fate of German Refugees in Denmark

Death in Poland
The Fate of the Ethnic Germans.

Postscript by The Scriptorium:
65 Years Later

"But I already know today exactly what the other nations will say to all of this:...What else could the poor Poles do but get rid of [the German minority] as quickly as possible - seeing as now they were being attacked not only from the front, but also from within! The fact that their anger at this treacherous attack led to some excesses, well, who could possibly blame them for that..."

That was what Dr. Kohnert predicted in September 1939 (Chapter 13). And how did reality turn out? The following article from February 3, 2003, published in a prestigious mainstream German news periodical, gives a glimpse:

Poland

Compensation for Death Sentences?

The Federal Republic of Germany is facing a new wave of demands for compensation for Nazi crimes - this time from Poland. Before the Wehrmacht marched in to the city of Bydgoszcz (Bromberg) in September...

Death in Poland
The Fate of the Ethnic Germans.

Chapter 1:
The Beginning - September 3, 1939

September 3rd was one of those summer days one only finds in the East: the sky devoid of clouds, its blue a bit faded, and with a dry wind blowing in from Russia. In the gardens the trees were weighed down by fruit, along the fences the dahlias were bursting into bloom - if this weather held a bit longer it would make for a bountiful harvest. But would there even be time to bring it in, seeing as war with Germany had broken out two days ago?

Just as an impending thunderstorm on a hot day makes itself known in advance, a strange, gloomy tension lay in the air. For months already the Germans had suffered under Polish trespasses, but now there...

MI5 Persecution: .net Magazine Applauds my Website

The March 1998 issue (number 42) of .net Magazine reviews the MI5
Persecution website describing it as an "excellent site". The webpages
describe in detail the nature of my persecution since 1990 by what are
believed to be elements of the UK security service.

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You are encouraged to read the web pages which include

o a FAQ section outlining the nature of the persecutors, their methods
of harassment through the media, people at work and among the general public
o an evidence section, which carries audio and video clips of media and
workplace harassment, rated according to how directly I think they refer to me
o factual descriptions of the state security agencies involved
o scanned texts of the complaints I have made to media and state security agencies involved
o posts which have been made to netnews over the last three years on this topic

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