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Author: lorad474lorad474 Date: Jun 15, 2008 11:37
They said a 'NO' vote would stop further advancement of their european
soviet under the 'Nice Treaty'
France and the Netherlands voted it down in referendum.. but they
lied...
And have proceeded forward with their euro-rat plans.
And so the euro-rat totalitarians cooked up something called the
'Lisbon Treaty'.. (as though the NIce rejection never happened) this
time making a federal government.. and hoping to give poodle dog Tony
Bliar a job as the 'el-supremo' of it...
While also destroying most of the sovereignty rights of the victim
nations of the EU.
This time, though, they decided that they wouldn't allow any of the
victim nation citizens to vote on that socialist agenda.
Somehow the Irish got the right to vote - the ONLY member nation of
the EU whose CITIZENS WERE ALLOWED TO VOTE !!!
And the people rejected that socialist totalitarian mish-mash too.
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Author: DubbelDubberyDubbelDubbery Date: Jun 15, 2008 11:59
> They said a 'NO' vote would stop further advancement of their european
> soviet under the 'Nice Treaty'
Yep, they just change the name, and we are on track again.
After that they throw some EU money towards Ireland, and try
and bribe the people to vote YES! in the next referendum.
Or they do it like here, the Netherlands, just don`t hold a referendum the
second time and just let the government say YES!.
> France and the Netherlands voted it down in referendum.. but they
> lied...
> And have proceeded forward with their euro-rat plans.
Yesm but that was not the choice of the people, they just ent ahead
like many other countries and let the sitting government decide, which
is totally wrong in my view in such an important matter.
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Author: Dr Quite EvilDr Quite Evil Date: Jun 15, 2008 12:10
"DubbelDubbery" wrote in
news:4854e7f5$0$14360$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:
>> This time, though, they decided that they wouldn't allow any of the
>> victim nation citizens to vote on that socialist agenda.
>
> What socialists agenda? It's a big business agenda, nothing
> socialistic about it.
The EU is a colossal machine for transferring money from one place to
another. A hundred billion euros of it. In this sense it is highly
socialistic.
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Author: ungluedunglued Date: Jun 15, 2008 17:59
On 15 Juni, 11:59, "DubbelDubbery" wrote:
>> They said a 'NO' vote would stop further advancement of their european
>> soviet under the 'Nice Treaty'
>
> Yep, they just change the name, and we are on track again.
> After that they throw some EU money towards Ireland, and try
> and bribe the people to vote YES! in the next referendum.
> Or they do it like here, the Netherlands, just don`t hold a referendum the
> second time and just let the government say YES!.
>
>> France and the Netherlands voted it down in referendum.. but they
>> lied...
>> And have proceeded forward with their euro-rat plans.
>
> Yesm but that was not the choice of the people, they just ent ahead
> like many other countries and let the sitting government decide, which
> is totally wrong in my view in such an important matter.
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Author: ungluedunglued Date: Jun 15, 2008 18:01
On 15 Juni, 12:10, Dr Quite Evil evil.com> wrote:> "DubbelDubbery" wrote innews:4854e7f5$0$14360$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:
>
>>> This time, though, they decided that they wouldn't allow any of the
>>> victim nation citizens to vote on that socialist agenda.
>
>> What socialists agenda? It's a big business agenda, nothing
>> socialistic about it.
>
> The EU is a colossal machine for transferring money from one place to
> another. A hundred billion euros of it. In this sense it is highly
> socialistic.
United Fruit and General Electric are socialist projects? Your
analysis lacks some lucidity.
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Author: Dr Quite EvilDr Quite Evil Date: Jun 15, 2008 18:19
> On 15 Juni, 12:10, Dr Quite Evil evil.com> wrote:>> "DubbelDubbery" wrote
>> innews:4854e7f5$0$14360$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:
>>
>>>> This time, though, they decided that they wouldn't allow any of
>>>> the victim nation citizens to vote on that socialist agenda.
>>
>>> What socialists agenda? It's a big business agenda, nothing
>>> socialistic about it.
>>
>> The EU is a colossal machine for transferring money from one place to
>> another. A hundred billion euros of it. In this sense it is highly
>> socialistic.
>
> United Fruit and General Electric are socialist projects? Your
> analysis lacks some lucidity.
>
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Author: Robert SRobert S Date: Jun 15, 2008 19:10
On 15 Jun, 16:59, unglued wrote:
> On 15 Juni, 11:59, "DubbelDubbery" wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>> They said a 'NO' vote would stop further advancement of their european
>>> soviet under the 'Nice Treaty'
>
>> Yep, they just change the name, and we are on track again.
>> After that they throw some EU money towards Ireland, and try
>> and bribe the people to vote YES! in the next referendum.
>> Or they do it like here, the Netherlands, just don`t hold a referendum the
>> second time and just let the government say YES!.
>
>>> France and the Netherlands voted it down in referendum.. but they
>>> lied...
>>> And have proceeded forward with their euro-rat plans.
> ...
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Author: John of AixJohn of Aix Date: Jun 15, 2008 20:43
> Somehow the Irish got the right to vote
Because it is in their constitution. Good things constitutions, you want
to try one some time.
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Author: Dr Quite EvilDr Quite Evil Date: Jun 15, 2008 21:40
"John of Aix" wrote in news:48556552$1$927
$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr:
>> Somehow the Irish got the right to vote
>
> Because it is in their constitution.
Strangely it's not. But following Crotty v An Teashop it's been tradition
to have a referendum on constitutional amendments involving the EU.
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Author: John of AixJohn of Aix Date: Jun 15, 2008 22:58
Dr Quite Evil wrote:
> "John of Aix" wrote in news:48556552$1$927
> $ba4acef3@news.orange.fr:
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>>> Somehow the Irish got the right to vote
>>
>> Because it is in their constitution.
>
> Strangely it's not. But following Crotty v An Teashop it's been
> tradition to have a referendum on constitutional amendments involving
> the EU.
I'll have to take your word for it at the moment and check it in the
cold light of dawn. I believed (though may well be wrong) that any
constitutional amendment required a referendum. Perhaps this 'tradition'
of referenda concerning the EU is simply a reflection of the fact that
these are the most common possible amendments to the Irish constitution
these days.
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