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  The Skeptic Tank discussion forum is back         


Author: Fredric L. Rice
Date: Jul 28, 2008 12:15

http://www.raids.org/forum/index.php

The Skeptic Tank has re-created a discussion forum since the old
one kind of died when various PHP files or database files got hosed
or corrupted over the years. It got so many message postings that
never got deleted so it kind of crapped up and devolved.

I don't ever censor anything unless it's something really, grossly
actionable, and even then I probably wouldn't. }:-}

Current forums cover:

o The Adam, Lilith, and Eve mythologies and the ways in which
supposedly inviolate mythologies change over the years.

o Audio visual and other product scams -- The crooks who sell the rubes
$1000 speaker cables claiming their pruducts are some how magically
better than the usual $3 cables gets described along with all the other
scams and frauds being sold to the rubes, marks, and suckers.

o Big Foot and other improbable creatures that are fun to believe
in but which evidence suggests that the believers are being silly.

o Creationist Kooks and Science that smacks the dishonest, insane,
god-struck morons down every time.
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  DOJ Disputes Atheist's Claim of Religious Intolerance in Military         


Author: Otis Willie PIO The American War Library
Date: Jul 19, 2008 05:53

DOJ Disputes Atheist's Claim of Religious Intolerance in Military
http://www.pubrecord.org/component/content/203.html?task=view

{EXCERPT} The Public Record, California - Fearing that higher ranking Army
officials would not come to his defense, Hall contacted the Military Religious
Freedom Foundation (MRFF), a watchdog group...

http://www.pubrecord.org/component/content/203.html?task=view

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  Atheist soldier sues Pentagon         


Author: Otis Willie PIO The American War Library
Date: Jul 12, 2008 10:19

Atheist soldier sues Pentagon
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/07/09/Atheist_soldier_sues_Pentagon/UPI-4397121.../

{EXCERPT} United Press International - Hall contends there is a pattern of
discrimination against non-Christians in the military, saying, "I think it's
utterly and totally wrong....

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/07/09/Atheist_soldier_sues_Pentagon/UPI-4397121.../

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  Pew Forum religion survey         


Author: Todd N. Verklarung
Date: Jun 24, 2008 21:51

Lots of reporting on this. See, for example:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25334489/print/0/displaymode/1098

The most interesting (for this ng) quote:

'Another finding almost defies explanation: 21 percent of
self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit,
with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.'

Any theories as to why this could be so? Or is it faulty surveying, like
mutually contradictory Q & A?

TnV
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  The speech of Christopher Hitchens at The World Humanist Congress - 8 June 2008 - Washington D.C.         


Author: Remus Cernea
Date: Jun 19, 2008 21:05

Dear friends,

I've posted on www.youtube.com two movies from the last day of The
World Humanist Congress - 8 June 2008 - Washington D.C.

The first movie (in two parts) is Christopher Hitchens' speech at this
great humanist event. You may find more information about his life and
works here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens

The second movie is a short discussion between Christopher Hitchens
and me (you may find more about my work in Romania here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remus_Cernea ).

You may see the first part of Cristopher Hitchens' speech here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w64rNs2mYQ

The second part of his speech is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0iuXpLqJos

The discussion between Christopher Hitchens and me is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDiir9rbi1Y

My best wishes,
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  An atheist soldier from Fort Riley says his higher-ups in Iraq...         


Author: Otis Willie PIO The American War Library
Date: May 26, 2008 21:33

An atheist soldier from Fort Riley says his higher-ups in Iraq...

http://www.pitch.com/2008-05-22/news/an-atheist-soldier-from-fort-riley-says-his.../

{EXCERPT} Pitch Weekly, MO He approached his Army chaplain for permission to
hold a meeting of atheists, freethinkers and any other non-Christians. He got
the chaplain's blessing and...

http://www.pitch.com/2008-05-22/news/an-atheist-soldier-from-fort-riley-says-his.../

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  No atheists allowed in foxholes         


Author: Otis Willie PIO The American War Library
Date: Mar 12, 2008 20:58

No atheists allowed in foxholes
http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/10/no-atheists-allowed-in-foxholes/

{EXCERPT} World Magazine, NC According to an Associated Press account, Hall
alleges that Gates permits a military culture in which officers are encouraged
to pressure soldiers to adopt...

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  Atheist Soldier Says Army Punished Him         


Author: Otis Willie PIO The American War Library
Date: Mar 12, 2008 20:57

Atheist Soldier Says Army Punished Him
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iTPjkhPtGfRjsMUS9Q_F95TRAdcQD8V7JRIO0

{EXCERPT} The Associated Press (AP) A soldier claimed Wednesday that his
promotion was blocked because he had claimed in a lawsuit that the Army was
violating his right to be an atheist...

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  SOS Romania - theory of evolution removed from curricula - please support our campaign to bring it back in schools         


Author: Remus Cernea
Date: Mar 5, 2008 16:44

You are invited to sign the open letter bellow to support teaching of
the theory of evolution and philosophical approaches on religion in
Romanian public schools, by sending us an email at
freedomofconscience@gmail.com no later than Monday, 24 March 2008.
The whole letter is below and the link to the open letter is here
(if the link doesn't work, please go to www.humanism.ro and then
English and you will find the details on this issue):

http://www.humanism.ro/articles.php?page=62&article=223

My best wishes,

Remus Cernea
Executive director
The Solidarity for Freedom of Conscience
www.humanism.ro
freedomofconscience@gmail.com
+4.0727.583.594

Open Letter to The Romanian Ministry of Education, Research, and Youth

Put the theory of evolution and philosophical approaches to religion
back in biology and philosophy curricula in Romanian public schools!

Mr. Minister Cristian Adomnitei,
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  Research Methods         


Author: Allan Adler
Date: Feb 25, 2008 22:29

I did promise that I would try to get back to reading the book,

(1) Research Methods for Social Work, by Allen Rubin an Earl Babbie, 2001,

and to report on whatever I learn that might be relevant to this group.
Recall that this promise arose in the ancient context of a posting of
David V. in which he drew our attention to some online paper claiming
to find a correlation between religious belief and some negative outcomes.
I really don't remember the details now and I don't think they matter
anymore. I consider the effort to acquire some appreciation of the standards
of research to be more important than the matter of the particular article,
even though I recall that my impressions of the article were somewhat negative.

The book (1) itself is not really appropriate material for soc.atheism; it
would not be right to simply read it and to quote from it. It might be
appropriate to do so when it actually impinged on the ways in which we draw
statistical inferences about groups of people, including religious groups and
political groups. So, I'll try to keep that important distinction in mind.

I personally like to have a focus when I read a book such as (1), especially
since I really know very little about sociology or the methods of social
scientists. I'm not quite sure how to proceed with...
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