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Author: maxsonmaxson Date: Jan 22, 2008 17:21
Over the years, this forum has seen many negative posts about Christa
McAuliffe and her mother. Some of them (labeled "jokes") have been
plainly disgusting. Nevertheless, I can't recall anyone ever referring
to Christa and Grace as dishonest. Those two women were honest
educators. When Mission 51-L lifted off, they honestly believed we had
a healthy space program for civilians.
Since then, doubletalk and disinformation about Challenger have
prevented children from getting an honest space education. This has
bred even more duplicity and double-dealing. On the other hand, many
citizens still remember the success that openness at NASA once brought
to our civilian manned space program.
Many people fear that NASA cannot remain viable much longer without
credible closure of major issues resolved irrationally by the Reagan-
appointed Challenger Commission. In a free and open society, there can
be no long term acceptance of answers given in doublespeak, no matter
how "officially" they were rendered.
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Author: Nicholas FitzpatrickNicholas Fitzpatrick Date: Jan 22, 2008 18:12
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>After replying to any initial comments, or to any questions about the
>photogrammetrics of the event, I would like to proceed to the
>pertinent portion of the caption to be analyzed.
I don't see how this is a simple request. If it takes you more than one
post to make the request, it isn't a simple request.
This accident was put to bed over 20 years ago. I can't imagine why there
is any reason to microanalyse the documents at this date. No one
in their right mind has any belief that this wasn't anything other
than an accident.
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Author: maxsonmaxson Date: Jan 22, 2008 19:01
On Jan 22, 11:12 am, nf...@shell1.sentex.ca (Nicholas Fitzpatrick)
wrote:
>>After replying to any initial comments, or to any questions about the
>>photogrammetrics of the event, I would like to proceed to the
>>pertinent portion of the caption to be analyzed.
>
> I don't see how this is a simple request. If it takes you more than one
> post to make the request, it isn't a simple request.
If you deem the request (along with the way it was described and
introduced) to be unreasonable or beyond your level of interest, why
bother to reply?
> This accident was put to bed over 20 years ago. I can't imagine why there
> is any reason to microanalyse the documents at this date. No one
> in their right mind has any belief that this wasn't anything other
> than an accident.
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Author: Brian GaffBrian Gaff Date: Jan 22, 2008 19:50
The phrase dogs and old bones comes to mind here.
Brian
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Brian Gaff - briang1@ blueyonder.co.uk
Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name may be lost.
Blind user, so no pictures please!
mission51l.com> wrote...
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Author: Jeff FindleyJeff Findley Date: Jan 22, 2008 19:51
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>>After replying to any initial comments, or to any questions about the
>>photogrammetrics of the event, I would like to proceed to the
>>pertinent portion of the caption to be analyzed.
>
> I don't see how this is a simple request. If it takes you more than one
> post to make the request, it isn't a simple request.
>
> This accident was put to bed over 20 years ago. I can't imagine why there
> is any reason to microanalyse the documents at this date. No one
> in their right mind has any belief that this wasn't anything other
> than an accident.
maxon is a known net kook and a troll. You can't reason with him. Please
killfile him.
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Author: Damon HillDamon Hill Date: Jan 22, 2008 20:58
nfitz@shell1.sentex.ca (Nicholas Fitzpatrick) wrote in
news:4796240e$1@ news.sentex.net:
> This accident was put to bed over 20 years ago. I can't imagine why
> there is any reason to microanalyse the documents at this date. No
> one in their right mind has any belief that this wasn't anything other
> than an accident.
And Maxson has not been in his right mind for many years, if ever.
Just killfile the unhappy soul; there's no reason in him.
--Damon
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Author: maxsonmaxson Date: Jan 22, 2008 22:51
On Jan 22, 12:51 pm, "Jeff Findley" ugs.nojunk.com>
wrote:>
> maxon is a
The correct spelling is M-a-x-s-o-n.
Proceeding with no technical questions raised, we find again in the
Report of the Presidential Commission on the Challenger Accident, at
page 30 of Volume I
http://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/v1p30.htm
the following statements (in the caption for the lower photo):
"At left, the two Solid Rocket Boosters thrust away from the fire,
crisscrossing to form a 'V.' The right booster - identifiable by its
failure plume - now to the left of its counterpart."
To begin with, in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary the relevant
entry for "plume" is:
3:b: an elongated and usually open and mobile column or band (as of
smoke, exhaust gases, or blowing snow)
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Author: behlingjobehlingjo Date: Jan 22, 2008 23:19
> Many people fear that NASA cannot remain viable much longer without
> credible closure of major issues resolved irrationally by the Reagan-
> appointed Challenger Commission.
>
I'll bite
Why?
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Author: behlingjobehlingjo Date: Jan 22, 2008 23:24
On Jan 22, 5:19 pm, behlin...@ gmail.com wrote: > On Jan 22, 11:21 am, "max...@ mission51l.com" mission51l.com>
> wrote:
>>> Many people fear that NASA cannot remain viable much longer without
>> credible closure of major issues resolved irrationally by the Reagan-
>> appointed Challenger Commission.
>
> I'll bite
>
> Why?
and who are the many people?
I bet the 'many people" group intersects with the bulk of the "we
didn't land on the moon" and the "USA uses alien technology" groups
The cause of the incident is known and fixed. Case closed. Also
what does it matter 20 years from now and also once the shuttle stops
flying?
Double talk? That is what you are doing.
Let it go
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Author: bob haller safety advocatebob haller safety advocate Date: Jan 22, 2008 23:25
sadly nasa has created much of its own grief, with apollo one,
challenger and columbia failures and their attempt to provide a clean
no suffering kill for the crews.
anytime you appear to cover something up you widen and spread gossip,
which then takes on a life of its own........
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