David Hilbert once asked a gathering of mathematicians:

"'Do you know why Einstein said the most original and profound things
about space and time that have been said in our generation? Because he
had learned nothing about all the philosophy and mathematics of time
and space." P. Frank, Einstein – His Life and Times, p. 206.

I believe that this statement should be interpreted according to David
Hilbert’s philosophy of physics. In essence, Hilbert believed that
“physics is too difficult for physicists” and that mathematicians
should take it over. Isn’t it obvious that Hilbert is chiding
mathematicians for their disinterest in physics?

Here is another famous Hilbert quote, referring to GTR, that I also
interpret as Hilbert chiding mathematicians for having no interest in
his mathematical challenge to axiomatize all of physics:

"Every boy in the streets of Gottingen understands more about four-
dimensional geometry than Einstein. Yet, in spite of that, Einstein
did the work and not the mathematicians."

Shubee
http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf

On May 31, 9:29 pm, Shubee gmail.com> wrote:

"Shubee" gmail.com> wrote in message
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David Hilbert once asked a gathering of mathematicians:

"'Do you know why Einstein said the most original and profound things
about space and time that have been said in our generation? Because he
had learned nothing about all the philosophy and mathematics of time
and space." P. Frank, Einstein

Androcles wrote:

So why was it that Einstein took the lead in seeing gravitation as a
manifestation of curvature in the spacetime manifold? Hilbert did not
do that first. He did it better, though because he was the better
mathematician. Feynman pointed out in volume two of his famous set of
lectures, that mathematicians for all their smarts generally do not
advance physics. Newton was a major exception. He co-invented calculus
to deal with motion. His motivation was physics, not mathematics.
Leibniz also invented calculus but he did not originate any major
theories of physics.

Robert J. Kolker comcast.net> wrote in message
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Androcles did not write this. Shubee did.
Androcles' contribution was to include it in his reply
being too lazy to properly add quoting characters.

Dirk Vdm

On Jun 1, 6:44 am, "T.H. Ray" aol.com> wrote:

Then let's hear your interpretation of David Hilbert's remarks.

David Hilbert once asked a gathering of mathematicians:

"Do you know why Einstein said the most original and profound things
about space and time that have been said in our generation? Because he
had learned nothing about all the philosophy and mathematics of time
and space." P. Frank, Einstein – His Life and Times, p. 206.

On Jun 1, 3:06 pm, Shubee gmail.com> wrote:

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Poor thing...! What part of what T.H. Ray wrote to you, namely
"Hilbert was a straightforward speaker, as was Einstein.
I don't have to filter their remarks through my own
philosophy to interpret what they meant, i.e., what
they "really" said." you didn't understand?

On Jun 1, 7:43 am, Tonico yahoo.com> wrote:

Robert J. Kolker wrote on Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:22:33 -0400:

From where you got this?

Shubee wrote: