> On May 9, 2:41 am, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On May 8, 10:29 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>> Although Silly Vesselin Petkov was very close to the truth:

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>>> http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9810030v13
>>> Silly Vesselin Petkov: "It has been overlooked that the wavelength of
>>> a photon in the gravitational redshift experiment cannot change along
>>> with its frequency due to the conservation of the photon momentum. As
>>> both frequency and velocity change in this experiment the measurement
>>> of a change in a photon frequency is in fact an indirect measurement
>>> of a change in the photon local velocity."

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>>> Criminal Tom Roberts managed to confuse him irreversibly and now Silly
>>> Vesselin Petkov is very far from the truth. Here is an Einsteinian
>>> that Criminal Tom Roberts has not confused yet so this particular
>>> Einsteinian is still very close to the truth:

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>>> http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp" The first confirmation of a
>>> long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in
>>> 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a
>>> previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the
>>> speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational
>>> field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second
>>> place our result shows that, according to the general theory of
>>> relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in
>>> vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the
>>> special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently
>>> referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of
>>> light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light
>>> varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special
>>> Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called
>>> mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that
>>> the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
>>> surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
>>> Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
>>> Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
>>> gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light
>>> in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for
>>> the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity.
>>> One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2)
>>> where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
>>> measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
>>> REDSHIFT FACTOR."

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>> So if Criminal Tom Roberts had not confused Silly Vesselin Petkov so
>> irreversibly, Silly Vesselin Petkov could say to Silly Ian Morison:

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>> http://fora.tv/2008/02/21/Ian_Morison_on_Einstein_s_Relativity_in_Action

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>> Silly Vesselin Petkov: "Hey, Silly Ian Morison, Pound and Rebka did
>> not prove the existence of any gravitational time dilation! Rather,
>> although they did not know it, they proved the validity of Einstein's
>> 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) showing how the speed of light varies with
>> the gravitaional potential V. If they had known how to apply
>> Einstein's equivalence principle in such cases, they would also have
>> shown the validity of the equation c'=c+v given by Newton's emission
>> theory of light, where v is the relative speed of the light source and
>> the observer."

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>> Silly Vesselin Petkov will never say that to Silly Ian Morison because
>> Criminal Tom Roberts managed to confuse him irreversibly.

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> I think everything about theories should be ok in the ngs, even
> trolling, but yet I recommend not characterizing anyone as criminal,
> especially Roberts, with whom I have had many arguments with but he is
> a good scienstist and does nto deserve this.