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What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: kenseto
Date: May 2, 2008 07:35

What's wrong with these pictures???

1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock. This means that
the passage of a stay at home clock second corresponds to the passage
of less than a clock second on the traveling clock. However when the
traveling clock rejoins the stay-at-home clock, the traveling clock
second is compared with the stay-at-home clock second directly to
reach the conclusion that the traveling clock is younger. It seems
that SR is making the contradictory claims that: (a) the passage of a
traveling clock second does not correspond to the passage of a stay-at-
home clock second. (b) the passage of a traveling clock second does
correspond to the passage of a stay-at-home clock second.
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: Dirk Van de moortel
Date: May 2, 2008 07:43

"kenseto" erinet.com> wrote in message news:68b3b5a9-f17b-45a0-b178-230525cc3986@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> What's wrong with these pictures???

The imbecile who pulled them out his nose.

Here we go for another never ending treat of
"I Bet I Can Educate This Imbecile!"

Dirk Vdm
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: Sam Wormley
Date: May 2, 2008 07:43

kenseto wrote:
> What's wrong with these pictures???
>

Special relativity has yet to have one of its predictions
contradicted by an observation.

On the other hand.. Seto has never understood relativity
and, given the content of his posting record, probably
never will.
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: Mike
Date: May 2, 2008 10:13

On May 2, 10:35 am, kenseto erinet.com> wrote:
> What's wrong with these pictures???
>
> 1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
> running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock. This means that
> the passage of a stay at home clock second corresponds to the passage
> of less than a clock second on the traveling clock. However when the
> traveling clock rejoins the stay-at-home clock, the traveling clock
> second is compared with the stay-at-home clock second  directly to
> reach the conclusion that the traveling clock is younger. It seems
> that SR is making the contradictory claims that: (a) the passage of a
> traveling clock second does not correspond to the passage of a stay-at-
> home clock second. (b) the passage of a traveling clock second does...
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: PD
Date: May 2, 2008 10:45

On May 2, 9:35 am, kenseto erinet.com> wrote:
> What's wrong with these pictures???
>
> 1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
> running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock.

SR makes no such claim. Where are you reading such crap?
What SR tells you is precisely what will be *measured* -- that is, how
much time each twin will say has elapsed between the time of their
departure and the time of their reunion. SR does NOT make a claim
about which clock is running faster or slower in between.
> This means that
> the passage of a stay at home clock second corresponds to the passage
> of less than a clock second on the traveling clock. However when the
> traveling clock rejoins the stay-at-home...
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: Tom Roberts
Date: May 2, 2008 12:15

kenseto wrote:
> What's wrong with these pictures???

Your personal misunderstandings.
> 1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
> running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock. [...]

SR simply does NOT claim that. You REALLY need to learn about SR before
attempting to discuss it.
> [...]

No point in responding.

Tom Roberts
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: kenseto
Date: May 2, 2008 13:06

On May 2, 3:15 pm, Tom Roberts sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> kenseto wrote:
>> What's wrong with these pictures???
>
> Your personal misunderstandings.
>
>> 1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
>> running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock.   [...]
>
> SR simply does NOT claim that. You REALLY need to learn about SR before
> attempting to discuss it.

So ACCORDING TO YOU: the traveling clock has less elapsed time when it
rejoins the stay-at-home clock is not because it was running at slower
rate than the stay-at-home clock....right? Question: what is the cause
that the traveling clock shows less elapsed time?

Ken Seto
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: Dirk Van de moortel
Date: May 2, 2008 13:10

kenseto erinet.com> wrote in message
58494738-2390-4283-a9c3-a934cef80320@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
> On May 2, 3:15 pm, Tom Roberts sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> kenseto wrote:
>>> What's wrong with these pictures???
>>
>> Your personal misunderstandings.
>>
>>> 1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
>>> running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock. [...]
>>
>> SR simply does NOT claim that. You REALLY need to learn about SR before
>> attempting to discuss it.
>
> So ACCORDING TO YOU: the traveling clock has less elapsed time when it
> rejoins the stay-at-home clock is not because it was running at slower
> rate than the stay-at-home clock....right? Question: what is the cause
> that the traveling clock shows less elapsed time...
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: rbwinn
Date: May 2, 2008 13:27

On May 2, 10:13�am, Mike wrote:
> On May 2, 10:35�am, kenseto erinet.com> wrote:
>
>> What's wrong with these pictures???
>
>> 1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
>> running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock. This means that
>> the passage of a stay at home clock second corresponds to the passage
>> of less than a clock second on the traveling clock. However when the
>> traveling clock rejoins the stay-at-home clock, the traveling clock
>> second is compared with the stay-at-home clock second �directly to
>> reach the conclusion that the traveling clock is younger. It seems
>> that SR is making the contradictory claims that: (a) the passage of a
>> traveling clock second does not correspond to the passage of a stay-at-
>> home clock second. (b) the passage of a traveling clock second does
>> correspond to the passage of a stay-at-home clock second.
>
> Sounds pretty good to me.
>
> ...
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Re: What's wrong with these pictures???         


Author: Tom Roberts
Date: May 2, 2008 13:32

kenseto wrote:
> On May 2, 3:15 pm, Tom Roberts sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> kenseto wrote:
>>> What's wrong with these pictures???
>> Your personal misunderstandings.
>>
>>> 1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
>>> running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock. [...]
>> SR simply does NOT claim that. You REALLY need to learn about SR before
>> attempting to discuss it.
>
> So ACCORDING TO YOU: the traveling clock [...]

NONSENSE! You must learn to read what is written, not what you
personally want the writing to say.

Your complete and utter inability to actually understand anything about
SR is a long-standing feature around here. It seems likely to me that it
is related to your very poor reading comprehension, as illustrated by
your COMPLETE AND UTTER misunderstanding of what I wrote above.

Tom Roberts
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