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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: Dono
Date: Nov 29, 2007 08:03

On Nov 27, 4:58 pm, dr_strangelove triton.net> wrote:
> I developed an explanation of orbital precession that does not require
> GR. It only uses 2 well accepted physical formulas and some math. It
> can be viewed at:http://toe.sytes.net:65333/planetary%%20precession.pdf
>
> I await your personal attacks and name calling.
>
> Thank you very much.

Hmm, your paper concludes with the "discovery" that the "precession
per century is 42.91 arcseconds" .

Last we all checked 43 arcseconds was the DIFERENCE between the
Newtonian prediction on one hand and the GR prediction and
experimental observation on the other hand.
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: shalayka
Date: Nov 29, 2007 10:19

On Nov 29, 10:03 am, Dono comcast.net> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 4:58 pm, dr_strangelove triton.net> wrote:
>
>> I developed an explanation of orbital precession that does not require
>> GR. It only uses 2 well accepted physical formulas and some math. It
>> can be viewed at:http://toe.sytes.net:65333/planetary%%20precession.pdf
>
>> I await your personal attacks and name calling.
>
>> Thank you very much.
>
> Hmm, your paper concludes with the "discovery" that the "precession
> per century is 42.91 arcseconds" .
>
> Last we all checked 43 arcseconds was the DIFERENCE between the
> Newtonian prediction on one hand and the GR prediction and
> experimental observation on the other hand.

Dallas,
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: Dono
Date: Nov 29, 2007 11:37

On Nov 29, 10:19 am, shala...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> - Shawn- >
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: shalayka
Date: Nov 29, 2007 12:34

On Nov 29, 1:37 pm, Dono comcast.net> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 10:19 am, shala...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>> - Shawn- >

Ever brilliant.

- Shawn
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: dr_strangelove
Date: Nov 29, 2007 12:46

On Nov 29, 3:34 pm, shala...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 29, 1:37 pm, Dono comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 29, 10:19 am, shala...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> - Shawn- >
>
>
> Ever brilliant.
>
> - Shawn

This is a test of the google posting system. I tried twice to respond
to previous postings but they evaporated some where in cyber space.
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: dr_strangelove
Date: Nov 29, 2007 16:06

In my paper on the first page I clearly state that I use only 2
physical formulas and the rest is math. Neither formula is a potential
scalar field or a force function.

However for those of you who can't think out of the box (we all know
who that is. I doubt he can think in the box), shortly after equation
2.10 I define a potential function. I then multiply it by -m and take
the partial with respect to r. I refrain from calling the function a
potential field and the resultant of the operation a force for the
following reasons:

To be a true potential field in the physical sense it would have to
represent an actual scalar potential. Since it is derived only from a
velocity formula it isn't. However we could add -E to -m times it and
get, call it -V(r), which for all practical purposes could be
considered a scalar potential times mass. Taking the derivative of
this function could be considered a force. However since I never added
the minus total energy I can't really say that.

Since I made it clear in the beginning that I was going to use only 2
formulas and the rest was math, none of this is even relevant.
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Date: Nov 29, 2007 22:38

"dr_strangelove" triton.net> wrote in message
news:3a4dc75c-6410-49d7-a6f6-c2f437a446f5@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
: In my paper on the first page I clearly state that I use only 2
: physical formulas and the rest is math. Neither formula is a potential
: scalar field or a force function.

You got the wrong answer, 43 when it should be 5600
Nothing more need be said, you flunked.
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: Dono
Date: Nov 29, 2007 23:22

On Nov 29, 10:38 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
> "dr_strangelove" triton.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3a4dc75c-6410-49d7-a6f6-c2f437a446f5@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> : In my paper on the first page I clearly state that I use only 2
> : physical formulas and the rest is math. Neither formula is a potential
> : scalar field or a force function.
>
> You got the wrong answer, 43 when it should be 5600
> Nothing more need be said, you flunked.

Yep, you are right. I never thought the day will come when you correct
a bigger and more arrogant crank.Actually you got two cranks with one
hit (include the Shawn Shalayka idiot). A-fucking amazing!
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Author: dr_strangelove
Date: Nov 30, 2007 05:39

Here's a quote from a site that gives good background information on
the problem:

'http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-02/6-02.htm'

"when we observe the axis of the elliptical orbit of a planet such as
Mercury (for example) over a long period of time, referenced to our
equinox line, we must expect to find an apparent precession of...
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Re: Orbital precession w/o GR         


Date: Nov 30, 2007 06:27

"dr_strangelove" triton.net> wrote in message
news:17cbe48c-c64e-4c62-94ea-2e65846e6352@y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
: Here's a quote from a site that gives good background information on
: the problem:
:
: 'http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-02/6-02.htm'
:
: " we must expect to find an apparent precession of about
: 0.01396 degrees per year, which equals 5025 arc seconds per century

Absolute rubbish, the precession isn't constant. If it we'd have a solution
to the three-body problem.
The idiotic relativist responsible for that site doesn't understand Sagnac
either.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/SagnacIdiocy.htm
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