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INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: Pentcho Valev
Date: Jun 11, 2008 11:29

http://arxivblog.com/?p=460
"Entanglement is the strange and beautiful property of certain quantum
particles to become so deeply linked that they share the same
existence. According to quantum theory, that link should be maintained
whatever the distance between the particles, whether the width of an
atom or the diameter of the universe. This led Einstein to claim that
the instantaneous effects of entanglement would lead to “spooky action-
at-a-distance†in violation of special relativity which prevents
faster-than-light signals. Nobody knows how the different predictions
of relativity and quantum mechanics can be resolved."

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
Bryan Wallace: "I expect that the scientists of the future will
consider the dominant abstract physics theories of our time in much
the same light as we now consider the Medieval theories of how many
angels can dance on the head of a pin or that the Earth stands still
and the Universe moves around it."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: kp
Date: Jun 11, 2008 12:43

On Jun 11, 8:29 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://arxivblog.com/?p=460
> "Entanglement is the strange and beautiful property of certain quantum
> particles to become so deeply linked that they share the same
> existence. According to quantum theory, that link should be maintained
> whatever the distance between the particles, whether the width of an
> atom or the diameter of the universe. This led Einstein to claim that
> the instantaneous effects of entanglement would lead to “spooky action-
> at-a-distance†in violation of special relativity which prevents
> faster-than-light signals. Nobody knows how the different predictions
> of relativity and quantum mechanics can be resolved."
>
> http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
> Bryan Wallace: "I expect that the scientists of the future will
> consider the dominant abstract physics theories of our time in much
> the same light as we now consider the Medieval theories of how many
> angels can dance on the head of a pin or that the Earth stands still
> and the Universe moves around it."
>
> Pentcho Valev ...
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: Pentcho Valev
Date: Jun 11, 2008 13:17

On Jun 11, 9:43 pm, kp <4vec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 8:29 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>>http://arxivblog.com/?p=460
>> "Entanglement is the strange and beautiful property of certain quantum
>> particles to become so deeply linked that they share the same
>> existence. According to quantum theory, that link should be maintained
>> whatever the distance between the particles, whether the width of an
>> atom or the diameter of the universe. This led Einstein to claim that
>> the instantaneous effects of entanglement would lead to “spooky action-
>> at-a-distance†in violation of special relativity which prevents
>> faster-than-light signals. Nobody knows how the different predictions
>> of relativity and quantum mechanics can be resolved."
>
>>http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
>> Bryan Wallace: "I expect that the scientists of the future will ...
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: Spaceman
Date: Jun 11, 2008 13:34

"Pentcho Valev" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>The theory that predicts that the bug is both squashed and not
>squashed:

Stupid asses thinking speed alone (without collisions) changes
physical length.
(damn rubber rulers!)
:)
>and that a 80m long pole can be trapped inside a 40m long barn:

Oh look, same thing.
rubber ruler worshippers screaming about how there rulers are rubber!
LOL
>is incompatible with the theory that predicts teleportation:
>
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: kp
Date: Jun 11, 2008 13:37

On Jun 11, 10:17 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 9:43 pm, kp <4vec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 11, 8:29 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>http://arxivblog.com/?p=460
>>> "Entanglement is the strange and beautiful property of certain quantum
>>> particles to become so deeply linked that they share the same
>>> existence. According to quantum theory, that link should be maintained
>>> whatever the distance between the particles, whether the width of an
>>> atom or the diameter of the universe. This led Einstein to claim that
>>> the instantaneous effects of entanglement would lead to “spooky action-
>>> at-a-distance†in violation of special relativity which prevents
>>> faster-than-light signals. Nobody knows how the different predictions
>>> of relativity and quantum mechanics can be resolved."
>
>>>http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
>>> Bryan Wallace: "I expect that the scientists of the future will ...
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: Spaceman
Date: Jun 11, 2008 13:48

"kp" <4vector@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:04180519-b395-482a-b834-058d093a147e@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>As far as SR goes there us nothing incompatible in these examples.
>They maybe counter intuitive but that doesn't mean they are
>unphysical.

unphysical?
like the "observational" change of length with speed yet with no
physical proof of such ever occuring?
or like the observational proof that all clocks that are not
in your frame have slowed down according to your clock?
PUH LEASE!
It is not a matter of unphysical alone.
It is a matter of non-scientific at all.
rubber rulers and malfunctioning clocks is
all they have to keep the "rubber sheet" Universe
spinning.
:)
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Author: PD
Date: Jun 11, 2008 15:31

On Jun 11, 3:17 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 9:43 pm, kp <4vec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 11, 8:29 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>http://arxivblog.com/?p=460
>>> "Entanglement is the strange and beautiful property of certain quantum
>>> particles to become so deeply linked that they share the same
>>> existence. According to quantum theory, that link should be maintained
>>> whatever the distance between the particles, whether the width of an
>>> atom or the diameter of the universe. This led Einstein to claim that
>>> the instantaneous effects of entanglement would lead to “spooky action-
>>> at-a-distance†in violation of special relativity which prevents
>>> faster-than-light signals. Nobody knows how the different predictions
>>> of relativity and quantum mechanics can be resolved."
>
>>>http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
>>> Bryan Wallace: "I expect that the scientists of the future will ...
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: Spaceman
Date: Jun 11, 2008 15:56

"PD" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>You are assuming that length is something that is frame-independent --
>this is what you think "physically real" means.

Physical length is frame independant
It is however optical dependant for illusion of length.
unless you use rubber rulers.
Imagine that!
LOL

--
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: Pentcho Valev
Date: Jun 11, 2008 16:29

On Jun 12, 12:31 am, PD gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 3:17 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 11, 9:43 pm, kp <4vec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Jun 11, 8:29 pm, Pentcho Valev yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> http://arxivblog.com/?p=460
>>>> "Entanglement is the strange and beautiful property of certain quantum
>>>> particles to become so deeply linked that they share the same
>>>> existence. According to quantum theory, that link should be maintained
>>>> whatever the distance between the particles, whether the width of an
>>>> atom or the diameter of the universe. This led Einstein to claim that
>>>> the instantaneous effects of entanglement would lead to “spooky action-
>>>> at-a-distance†in violation of special relativity which prevents
>>>> faster-than-light signals. Nobody knows how the different predictions ...
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Re: INCOMPATIBLE ABSURDITIES IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD         


Author: G. L. Bradford
Date: Jun 11, 2008 22:11

"Spaceman" wrote in message
news:NIudnVAbuuDTp83VnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "kp" <4vector@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:04180519-b395-482a-b834-058d093a147e@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>As far as SR goes there us nothing incompatible in these examples.
>>They maybe counter intuitive but that doesn't mean they are
>>unphysical.
>
> unphysical?
> like the "observational" change of length with speed yet with no
> physical proof of such ever occuring?
> or like the observational proof that all clocks that are not
> in your frame have slowed down according to your clock?
> PUH LEASE!
> It is not a matter of unphysical alone.
> It is a matter of non-scientific at all.
> rubber rulers and malfunctioning clocks is
> all they have to keep the "rubber sheet" Universe
> spinning. ...
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