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Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: meda
Date: Sep 8, 2007 09:08

Einstein's (rest) energy formula E=mc^2 is wrong, because
for example: 1 kg coal has definitely more energy than 1 kg paper...
1 kg iron has definitely more energy than 1 kg earth...
1 kg steel has definitely more energy than 1 kg stone...
1 kg gold has definitely more energy than 1 kg glass

You see, we have found another error of this §$!& Einstein!... :-)
Q.E.D.
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Androcles
Date: Sep 8, 2007 09:48

"meda" topkale.net> wrote in message news:fbthqd$tv3$1@aioe.org...
: Einstein's (rest) energy formula E=mc^2 is wrong,

You are round the fucking twist.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/MC2.htm
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: John Christiansen
Date: Sep 8, 2007 10:02

"meda" topkale.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:fbthqd$tv3$1@aioe.org...
> Einstein's (rest) energy formula E=mc^2 is wrong, because
> for example: 1 kg coal has definitely more energy than 1 kg paper...
> 1 kg iron has definitely more energy than 1 kg earth...
> 1 kg steel has definitely more energy than 1 kg stone...
> 1 kg gold has definitely more energy than 1 kg glass
>
> You see, we have found another error of this
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Christian Schröder
Date: Sep 8, 2007 11:03

Androcles schrieb:
> You are round the fucking twist.
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/MC2.htm

Nice try. By the way there's a little error in your "calculation". First
of all you have to define your m. Is it the rest mass or the
relativistiv mass? And then you have to distinguish between them.

Have fun!

Christian
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Christian Schröder
Date: Sep 8, 2007 11:04

Androcles schrieb:
> You are round the fucking twist.
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/MC2.htm

Nice try. By the way there's a little error in your "calculation". First
of all you have to define your m. Is it the rest mass or the
relativistiv mass? And then you have to distinguish between them.

Have fun!

Christian
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Martin Hogbin
Date: Sep 8, 2007 11:22

"meda" topkale.net> wrote in message news:fbthqd$tv3$1@aioe.org...
> Einstein's (rest) energy formula E=mc^2 is wrong, because
> for example: 1 kg coal has definitely more energy than 1 kg paper...
> 1 kg iron has definitely more energy than 1 kg earth...
> 1 kg steel has definitely more energy than 1 kg stone...
> 1 kg gold has definitely more energy than 1 kg glass

No! This is wrong.

The correct relationships are:

Paper has more energy than stone.
Stone has more energy than metal.
Metal has more energy than paper.

--
Martin Hogbin
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Androcles
Date: Sep 8, 2007 11:28

"Christian Schr
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Androcles
Date: Sep 8, 2007 11:37

"Martin Hogbin" hogbin.org> wrote in message
news:xKednRLYZaqy-n_bRVnyhAA@bt.com...
:
: "meda" topkale.net> wrote in message news:fbthqd$tv3$1@aioe.org...
: > Einstein's (rest) energy formula E=mc^2 is wrong, because
: > for example: 1 kg coal has definitely more energy than 1 kg paper...
: > 1 kg iron has definitely more energy than 1 kg earth...
: > 1 kg steel has definitely more energy than 1 kg stone...
: > 1 kg gold has definitely more energy than 1 kg glass
:
: No! This is wrong.
:
: The correct relationships are:
:
: Paper has more energy than stone.
: Stone has more energy than metal.
: Metal has more energy than paper.
:
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Christian Schröder
Date: Sep 8, 2007 11:52

Okay, I'm sorry. I just noticed that you actually did define your m (and
the frame of reference) by the sentence: "[...] the projectiles fly
apart with equal and opposite momenta mv and -vm, each with KE = ½mv2.
[...]"

But therewith the relativistic energy-momentum equation (in usual
notation) is _not_ E² = m²c² + p²c² in general. (This equation holds
only for p = 0.)

And then I don't get your message.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Einstein's energy formula E=mc^2 is WRONG!         


Author: Dirk Van de moortel
Date: Sep 8, 2007 12:21

"Christian Schröder" wrote in message news:fbtrdq$t9o$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Okay, I'm sorry. I just noticed that you actually did define your m (and the frame of reference) by the sentence: "[...] the
> projectiles fly apart with equal and opposite momenta mv and -vm, each with KE = ½mv2. [...]"
>
> But therewith the relativistic energy-momentum equation (in usual notation) is _not_ E² = m²c² + p²c² in general. (This equation
> holds only for p = 0.)
>
> And then I don't get your message.
>
> Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Perhaps have a look at Androcles contributions and MO at
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/ImmortalFumbles.html
Enjoy!

Dirk Vdm
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