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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Author: Bryan Olson
Date: Apr 30, 2008 20:22

rbwinn wrote:
> Bryan Olson wrote:
>> Paul Mays wrote:
>>> You are both correct so shake hands and come out fighting!
>> You lost me. I hold, I believe in agreement with Tom, that radar
>> reflected from a moving target is Doppler shifted from the
>> transmitted frequency, and the working of police radar is based on
>> that phenomenon. Robert claimed:
>>
>> � �Radar does not change frequency. �It is reflected from a target
>> � �at the same frequency it had before.
>>
>> We cannot both be right.
[...]
> All of the radar I worked on had a carrier wave at constant
> frequency.

You lost me, Robert. Is that a retraction? No one claimed, and no one
except possibly yourself implied, that you personally had background
that would require understanding of Doppler shift in radar reflection.
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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Author: rbwinn
Date: Apr 30, 2008 22:16

On Apr 30, 8:22 pm, Bryan Olson nowhere.org> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
>> Bryan Olson wrote:
>>> Paul Mays wrote:
>>>> You are both correct so shake hands and come out fighting!
>>> You lost me. I hold, I believe in agreement with Tom, that radar
>>> reflected from a moving target is Doppler shifted from the
>>> transmitted frequency, and the working of police radar is based on
>>> that phenomenon. Robert claimed:
>
>>> � �Radar does not change frequency. �It is reflected from a target
>>> � �at the same frequency it had before.
>
>>> We cannot both be right.
>
> [...]
>
>> All of the radar I worked on had a carrier wave at constant
>> frequency.
> ...
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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Author: Bryan Olson
Date: May 1, 2008 03:04

rbwinn wrote:
> Bryan Olson wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> All of the radar I worked on had a carrier wave at constant
>>> frequency.
>> You lost me, Robert. Is that a retraction? No one claimed, and no one
>> except possibly yourself implied, that you personally had background
>> that would require understanding of Doppler shift in...
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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Author: rbwinn
Date: May 1, 2008 06:30

On May 1, 3:04�am, Bryan Olson nowhere.org> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
>> Bryan Olson wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> All of the radar I worked on had a carrier wave at constant
>>>> frequency.
>>> You lost me, Robert. Is that a retraction? No one claimed, and no one
>>> except possibly yourself implied, that you personally had background
>>> that would require understanding of Doppler shift in radar reflection.
>
>>>> The carrier wave was modulated by the wave being reflected
>>>> from targets.
>>> Lost me again. I can see how that might be an attempt to describe
>>> something real, but there's not enough there to tell what.
>
>> Well, radar can be fairly complicated compared to relativity. �The
>> fact is that I never worked on the Doppler Radar, never saw any of the
>> books on it, etc., for a very simple reason. �The Aviation Electronics
>> Technicians took care of the Doppler Radar used for Air Control. �I
>> did take care of all of the radar repeaters in CCA where the Doppler ...
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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Author: The Ghost In The Machine
Date: May 4, 2008 09:24

In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)

wrote
on Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:06:41 GMT
4ax.com>:
> What I am going to do is use sound to measure the doppler shift of light.
>
> This is the set up.
>
> S is a monochromatic light source, emitting light of frequency 7.5E14 hz (FL).
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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Date: May 4, 2008 17:31

On Sun, 4 May 2008 09:24:00 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine
sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
>In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
>
> wrote
>on Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:06:41 GMT
>4ax.com>:
>> What I am going to do is use sound to measure the...
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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Author: The Ghost In The Machine
Date: May 4, 2008 20:19

In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)

wrote
on Mon, 05 May 2008 00:31:15 GMT
4ax.com>:
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 09:24:00 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine
> sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
>
>>In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
>>
>> wrote
>>on Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:06:41 GMT
>>4ax.com>:
>>> What I am going to do is use sound to measure the doppler shift of light.
>>>
>>> This is the set up.
>>>
>>> S is a monochromatic light source, emitting light of frequency 7.5E14 hz (FL).
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Re: A Riddle for Relativists.         


Author: Androcles
Date: May 5, 2008 00:58

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Date: May 5, 2008 14:36

On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:19:58 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine
sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
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Date: May 5, 2008 14:44

On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:58:33 +0100, "Androcles"
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>| >>> Q) What is the colour of the light seen by an observer moving with the
>| >>> detector?
>| >>
>| >>The color of the light is 400 nm at rest, the gamma is 1+6.445*10^-11,
>| >>and the new wavelength...
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