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  Re: Who is really the 'personality' that calls himself 'Inertial' ??!!         


Author: Y.Porat
Date: Jun 8, 2010 06:26

On Jun 7, 5:49 pm, "Inertial" rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:cb602ddb-39c4-415c-bfc5-6b2cdd96fa67@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
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>> On Jun 7, 12:06 pm, "Inertial" rest.com> wrote:
>>> "Y.Porat" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>news:c98eb279-c4c6-46c5-b266-1e314ec80907@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
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>>>> On Jun 7, 4:20 am, "Inertial" rest.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Y.Porat" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>news:b0be4e98-78f8-4812-8d95-dec7b7aabe4b@c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
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>>>>>> On Jun 7, 3:24 am, "Inertial" rest.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "eric gisse" gmail.com> wrote in message
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  Re: Two slit experiment         


Author: Y.Porat
Date: Jun 8, 2010 06:15

On Jun 7, 5:51 pm, "Inertial" rest.com> wrote:
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>> On Jun 7, 4:31 pm, PD gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 6, 10:06 pm, Huang yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Jun 6, 7:36 pm, "Inertial" rest.com> wrote:
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>>>>> "Huang" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>news:4d49a5fc-a034-4004-a839-9c0ed947395c@e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
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>>>>>>>> If I invent a tool (other than math) which can
>>>>>>>> successfully model physical processes, then I would call that
>>>>>>>> physics.
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  Re: Two slit experiment         


Author: Y.Porat
Date: Jun 8, 2010 06:10

On Jun 7, 5:32 pm, PD gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 7, 9:59 am, "Y.Porat" gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jun 7, 4:31 pm, PD gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jun 6, 10:06 pm, Huang yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Jun 6, 7:36 pm, "Inertial" rest.com> wrote:
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>>>>> "Huang" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>news:4d49a5fc-a034-4004-a839-9c0ed947395c@e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
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>>>>>>>> If I invent a tool (other than math) which can
>>>>>>>> successfully model physical processes, then I would call that physics.
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>>>>>>> No
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  Re: Standard Model In Trouble         


Author: Y.Porat
Date: Jun 8, 2010 05:52

On Jun 4, 8:36 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Y.Porat schrieb:
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>> On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan righthere.net> wrote:
>>> Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time.
>>> This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus
>>> contradicts the Standard Model.
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>> --------------
>> the 'standard  model ' is introuble
>> not ont only by that
>> itr is in trouble for a lot of reasons
>> fo r  instance
>> the mass of 3 quarks is hardly
>> 10percent of the Proton mass
>> 90 percent is fucking 'Gluons'
>> ???!!!
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  Quantum Field Theory's Howler         


Author: Robert L. Oldershaw
Date: Jun 8, 2010 05:51

Does anybody know why QFT predicts a vacuum energy density that is
wrong by
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000?
Give or take a few zeros.

Here's why, and, better yet, here's a way to resolve this horrendous
howler.

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0901/0901.3381.pdf
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  Re: Standard Model In Trouble         


Author: Edward Green
Date: Jun 8, 2010 02:41

On Jun 6, 3:14 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Edward Green schrieb:

<...>
>> I don't know. Pick up a chunk of rock. Weigh it. From this, knowledge
>> of the rock's mineral content and Avogadro's number, one seems to have
>> a fairly straightforward way of counting the number of nuclei in the
>> rock, and by extension the number of protons and neutrons. We can
>> leave that rock in the storeroom a long time, and still get the same
>> answer; so protons seem quite "countable" under some prosaic
>> circumstances.
>
> By this line of arguments the result (particles 'exist' and they are
> countable) is used to prove the result (by using the term avogadro
> *number*). Actually the countability of atoms is not in question, but
> the realness and countability of elementary particles.

You may be right, there may be some circularity involved in my
invocation of Avogadro's number -- but you seem to agree that the
countability of atoms is not in doubt, anyway.
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  Re: Assumption of length contraction in original theory         


Author: Igor
Date: Jun 8, 2010 00:30

On Jun 6, 2:57 pm, BURT yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 6, 7:05 am, Igor excite.com> wrote:
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>> On Jun 5, 2:14 pm, BURT yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jun 5, 10:57 am, Igor excite.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Jun 3, 9:39 pm, BURT yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>> This assumption must be challenged. It is part of particle
>>>>> acceleration  physics. But how do we know what the particle
>>>>> experiences? It is a fact that we don't. And our trains have never
>>>>> been observed to shrink either.
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>>>>> It is simple. If atoms size contracts along the direction of motion
>>>>> then atoms physics can be proven to fail due to lopsidedness of the
>>>>> forces within the atom itself.
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  Re: Two slit experiment         


Author: Huang
Date: Jun 7, 2010 23:38

On Jun 7, 11:15 am, Sam Wormley gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/10 7:52 AM, Huang wrote:
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>> On Jun 6, 10:12 pm, Sam Wormleygmail.com>  wrote:
>>>     Have you got ANY example of physics that can be done without
>>>     mathematics? ANY?
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>> The best example would indeed be the simplest. From there, you can
>> build up to more complex things. The wording will be vastly different
>> from what you are accustomed to because you have been using
>> mathematics during your entire tenure as a scientist. But, the numbers
>> should jive with equal precision.
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>> The simplest possible example I can think of at the moment is
>> rectilinear motion. An object is moving in a straight line.
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  Re: Two slit experiment         


Author: Huang
Date: Jun 7, 2010 23:37

On Jun 7, 9:32 am, PD gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 7, 7:52 am, Huang yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Jun 6, 10:12 pm, Sam Wormley gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On 6/6/10 10:06 PM, Huang wrote:
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>>>> You really think that mathematics is the only thing which can
>>>> accomplish this ? I disagree. There are other tools which are
>>>> equivalent to mathematics.
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>>>    Have you got ANY example of physics that can be done without
>>>    mathematics? ANY?
>
>> The best example would indeed be the simplest. From there, you can
>> build up to more complex things. The wording will be vastly different ...
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  Re: Is each particle unique ?         


Author: Felix
Date: Jun 1, 2010 11:32

On 30 Mai, 21:18, BURT yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 11:49 am, Tom Roberts sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> Felix wrote:
>>> I am wondering if there is any way to uniquely idendify every
>>> component of the elements in the universe, even though we might not
>>> know the most elementar particle yet.
>
>> This depends on what you mean by "identify". We have indeed "identified" about
>> 100 different types of particles (mostly mesons), plus about 100 types of atoms
>> and several hundred nuclei. In the standard model there are only 24 elementary
>> particles: 6 quarks, 6 leptons, 11 gauge bosons, and the Higgs; plus all their
>> anti-particles.
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>> As far as we can tell, each instance of a given particle type is identical to
>> any other instance of the same particle type. That is, all electrons are
>> identical to each other, all lead atoms are identical to each other, etc.
> ...
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