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When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Charles Talleyrand
Date: Jun 2, 2008 21:14

Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover
point?

-or-

Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships. At
year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.

My guess would be early 1930s. By 1939 It seems clear that the
aircraft carrier trumps the battleship. What's your guess?

-Charles Talleyrand
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Peter Skelton
Date: Jun 2, 2008 21:41

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:14:35 -0700 (PDT), Charles Talleyrand
gmail.com> wrote:
>Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
>clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
>one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover...
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Jack Linthicum
Date: Jun 2, 2008 21:43

On Jun 2, 3:14 pm, Charles Talleyrand gmail.com> wrote:
> Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
> clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
> one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover
> point?
>
> -or-
>
> Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships. At
> year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
> 19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.
>
> My guess would be early 1930s. By 1939 It seems clear that the
> aircraft carrier trumps the battleship. What's your guess?
>
> -Charles Talleyrand

About 7:20 am local time in Hawaii, December 7, 1941
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Richard Casady
Date: Jun 2, 2008 22:16

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:14:35 -0700 (PDT), Charles Talleyrand
gmail.com> wrote:
>Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
>clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
>one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover
>point?
>
>-or-
>
>Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships. At
>year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
>19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.
>
>
>My guess would be early 1930s. By 1939 It seems clear that the
>aircraft carrier trumps the battleship. What's your guess?
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: deemsbill
Date: Jun 2, 2008 22:52

On Jun 2, 3:41 pm, Peter Skelton wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:14:35 -0700 (PDT), Charles Talleyrand
>
>
>
>
>
> gmail.com> wrote:
>>Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean.  It seems
>>clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
>>one should spend money on aircraft carriers.  When was the crossover
>>point?
>
>>-or-
>
>>Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships.  At
>>year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
>>19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.
>
>>My guess would be early 1930s.  By 1939 It seems clear that the ...
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Charles Talleyrand
Date: Jun 3, 2008 00:25

On Jun 2, 3:41 pm, Peter Skelton wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:14:35 -0700 (PDT), Charles Talleyrand
>
>
>
> gmail.com> wrote:
>>Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
>>clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
>>one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover
>>point?
>
>>-or-
>
>>Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships. At
>>year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
>>19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.
>
>>My guess would be early 1930s. By 1939 It seems clear that the
>>aircraft carrier trumps the battleship. What's your guess?
> ...
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Charles Talleyrand
Date: Jun 3, 2008 00:27

On Jun 2, 3:43 pm, Jack Linthicum earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 3:14 pm, Charles Talleyrand gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
>> clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
>> one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover
>> point?
>
>> -or-
>
>> Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships. At
>> year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
>> 19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.
>
>
>> -Charles Talleyrand
>
> About 7:20 am local time in Hawaii, December 7, 1941

No. That's wrong.
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Charles Talleyrand
Date: Jun 3, 2008 00:34

On Jun 2, 4:16 pm, richardcas...@earthlink.net (Richard Casady) wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:14:35 -0700 (PDT), Charles Talleyrand
>
> gmail.com> wrote:
>>Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
>>clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
>>one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover
>>point?
>
>>-or-
>
>>Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships. At
>>year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
>>19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.
>
>>My guess would be early 1930s. By 1939 It seems clear that the
>>aircraft carrier trumps the battleship. What's your guess?
>
> The actual question is when were the torpedos, bombs, and planes able
> to do a number on a battleship. 1925 maybe?The could build the ...
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Peter Skelton
Date: Jun 3, 2008 00:35

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:52:52 -0700 (PDT), "deemsbill@aol.com"
aol.com> wrote:
>On Jun 2, 3:41 pm, Peter Skelton wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:14:35 -0700 (PDT), Charles Talleyrand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Suppose the goal is long...
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Re: When do Carriers Begin to Dominate?         


Author: Jack Linthicum
Date: Jun 3, 2008 00:40

On Jun 2, 6:27 pm, Charles Talleyrand gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 3:43 pm, Jack Linthicum earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 2, 3:14 pm, Charles Talleyrand gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Suppose the goal is long term control of the open ocean. It seems
>>> clear than in 1914 one should spend money on battleships, and in 1945
>>> one should spend money on aircraft carriers. When was the crossover
>>> point?
>
>>> -or-
>
>>> Suppose I had some very large amount of money to spend on ships. At
>>> year 19YY I should have spent the money on battleships, but on year
>>> 19YY+1 I should have spent the money on aircraft carriers.
>
>>> -Charles Talleyrand
> ...
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