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  Re: Agincourt & Erin         


Author: jhjeeper
Date: Dec 26, 2008 15:00

guy wrote:
> On 17 Dec, 20:52, "Raymond O'Hara" hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "guy" googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cbbeffe2-2502-4aa4-bae0-3926a2a943e7@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> On 17 Dec, 20:30, "Raymond O'Hara" hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "guy" googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7ce0e0e2-a0c9-4d1a-bcf2-a43e556a3d28@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On 17 Dec, 19:50, nik Simpson knology.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Dean wrote:
>>>>>>> With the light armor on Agincourt, I suspect she would have been
>>>>>>> easily damaged or sunk in any Black Sea or Mediterranean battles.
>>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>> Yeah, but until she is, you still have to worry about her. Also, any
>>>>>> RN ...
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  Re: Gorshkov pictorial         


Author: Richard Casady
Date: Dec 26, 2008 14:15

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:14:35 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum
earthlink.net> wrote:
>http://www.logwell.com/tech/shot/perforator_history.html
>Experimentation led to the shaped charge being used in the petroleum
>industry.

The one vendor of the liquid nitroglycerine used to shoot wells went
out of business. So they had to invent other ways.

Casady
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  Re: Vietnam War -- Skunks, Bogies, Silent Hounds & Flying Fish: The Gulf of Tonkin Mystery, 2-4 August 1964         


Author: D. Spencer Hines
Date: Dec 26, 2008 14:06

The Straight Skinny...

Vide infra.

Also keep in mind _Spartans In Darkness_.

"Hell, those dumb, stupid sailors were just shooting at flying fish."

President Lyndon Baines Johnson -- as reported by Stanley Karnow in
_Vietnam: A History_.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

<http://www.nsa.gov/vietnam/>

<http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/relea00012.pdf>

<http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/press20051201.htm>
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  Re: Vietnam War -- Skunks, Bogies, Silent Hounds & Flying Fish: The Gulf of Tonkin Mystery, 2-4 August 1964         


Author: D. Spencer Hines
Date: Dec 26, 2008 13:37

Hilarious!

Pogue Linthicum, hiding out in the tall grass, is now trying to do a
desperate back and fill -- because he has been caught by the short hairs
on the facts -- about which he has been lying -- in order to enhance his
sea story and make himself out as some sort of important figure in the
Gulf of Tonkin Fiasco of August 1964.

Deeeeelightful!

Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this.

Enjoy!

Gerrel Moore was the Officer-in-Charge of the SIGINT DSU [Direct Support
Unit] later DSE [Direct Support Element] aboard USS Maddox (DD-731) in
the Gulf of Tonkin...

NOT Little Pogue Jack Linthicum.
> But the [sic] you were in Vietnam because I started
> it all with the Tonkin Gulf affair.
>
> Pogue Linthicum

Those are his very words...

Hilarious!
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  Re: Vietnam War -- Skunks, Bogies, Silent Hounds & Flying Fish: The Gulf of Tonkin Mystery, 2-4 August 1964         


Author: D. Spencer Hines
Date: Dec 26, 2008 13:26

<http://www.sos.ca.gov/archives/pdf/BGregory.pdf>

Interesting typical voyages and adventures of a former naval reserve
officer turned lawyer...

But purely a Red Herring, far off point....

Pogue Linthicum hasn't done a damned thing to prove this silly-buggers
statement that he "started it all with the Tonkin Gulf affair."
> But the [sic] you were in Vietnam because I started
> it all with the Tonkin Gulf affair.
>
> Pogue Linthicum

Those are his very words...

Hilarious!

How Sweet It Is!

Fortem Posce Animum.

Prosecutio stultitiae est gravis vexatio, executio stultitiae coronat
opus.
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  Friendly Fire Notebook         


Author: Otis Willie PIO The American War Library
Date: Dec 26, 2008 11:07

Friendly Fire Notebook

An effort has begun to collect and preserve the details of every friendly fire
incident that took or changed the lives of American soldiers.

Since the Revolutionary War thousands upon thousands of military personnel have
been injured or killed due to mistaken or intentional, American friendly fire.

All are invited to participate in this project. For more information
please access URL: http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/ff/ff.htm

Contact Person for this posting: Roger Simpson, PIO
Public Information Office: http://www.13105320634.com
The American War Library: http://www.amervets.com/
16907 Brighton Avenue
Gardena CA 90247-5420
Phone / Fax: 1-310-532-0634

-- Otis Willie (Ret.)
Military News and Information Editor (http://www.13105320634.com)
The American War Library, Est. 1988 (http://www.amervets.com)
16907 Brighton Avenue
Gardena CA 90247
1-310-532-0634
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  Faster Climate Change Feared New Report Points to Accelerated Melting, Longer Drought         


Author: Jack Linthicum
Date: Dec 26, 2008 10:20

Four foot sea level sea level rise by 2100, as opposed to the previous
guess/estimate of 1.5 feet. I should add that I live about 17 feet
above sea level. The loss of sea ice in the Arctic and increaaed
drought in the Southwest are signs of the climate change. The study
dodges the question as to whether human activity is responsible for
the change and also tends to dodge the question of increased methane
in the atmosphere.

Faster Climate Change Feared
New Report Points to Accelerated Melting, Longer Drought

By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 25, 2008; A02

The United States faces the possibility of much more rapid climate
change by the end of the century than previous studies have suggested,
according to a new report led by the U.S. Geological Survey.
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  Re: Launching a V1 from a U-boat         


Author: Jack Linthicum
Date: Dec 26, 2008 09:30

On Dec 18, 10:58 pm, Frogwatch mindspring.com> wrote:
> Could it be done in WW2?  the USA did it after the war (I forget the
> name of the V1 type aircraft launched from a sub by the USA).  What if
> they put RATO on it to get it up to speed?  What about towing a
> submerisble launcher that could be floated for launch?
> Perhaps a small unmanned AC floatplane filled with expolsives launched
> at night toward NYC.  Yes, a poor use of scarce resources but..........

The Germans did the logical thing and developed a separate missile,
the A-8,

A8

The A8 was prepared in Peenemünde and never finished because of the
progressing war situation. The A8 would have had a takeoff thrust of
340 kN with a takeoff weight of 22,370 kg. The diameter was 0.78 m.
The weapon designs were finished in 1944.[citation needed]

The A8 was intended to use storable liquids including Nitric acid and
diesel oil. It would also dispense with hydrogen peroxide to drive
engine pumps opting for nitrogen pressurised fuel tanks, or possibly
exhaust gases being reused to spin a pump.
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  Re: Bush's $1 Trillion War on Terror: Even Costlier Than Expected         


Author: Raymond O'Hara
Date: Dec 26, 2008 08:10

"Arved Sandstrom" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8U65l.682$z%%.473@edtnps82...
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:15:42 -0500, Raymond O'Hara wrote:
>
>> "Jack Linthicum" earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:f96d6b39-6ec6-432b-9fef-d7bd4cae8bed@z1g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Original cite has jumps to explanations.
>>
>> Friday, Dec. 26, 2008
>> Bush's $1 Trillion War on Terror: Even Costlier Than Expected By Mark
>> Thompson / Washington
>>
>>
> ============================================================================================
>>
>> it's not the cost but the lack of any tangible results that is the
>> problem.
>
> About the only thing it's done is to ensure that our enemies can kill ...
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  Pakistan shifts thousands of troops away from Afghan border toward India         


Author: Jack Linthicum
Date: Dec 26, 2008 06:36

This must be Biden's first six months warning brought to life. This
one could have naval implications, complicated by the Somali pirate
deployments. Cross your fingers on the nukes.

Pakistan moves troops toward Indian border

Officials: Pakistan shifts thousands of troops away from Afghan border
toward India

SEBASTIAN ABBOT
AP News

Dec 26, 2008 07:49 EST

Pakistan began moving thousands of troops away from the Afghan border
toward India on Friday amid tensions following the Mumbai attacks,
intelligence officials said.

The move represents a sharp escalation in the standoff between the
nuclear-armed neighbors and will hurt Pakistan's U.S.-backed campaign
against al-Qaida and Taliban taking place near Afghanistan's border.

Two intelligence officials said the army's 14th Division was being
redeployed to Kasur and Sialkot, close to the Indian border. They said
some 20,000 troops were on the move. Earlier Friday, a security
official said that all troop leave had been canceled.
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