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  Re: Anti-War Up - What we should remember...         


Author: Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Date: Sep 7, 2011 07:41

redvet@lava.net wrote:
> Just what is it we're being told to "never forget" as we remember the
> events of 10 years ago? Looking back at what the Bush regime did at
> the time:
>
> CBS News reported
> (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml)
> that, on the afternoon of 9/11/01, Donald Rumsfeld ordered the
> military to draw up plans to attack Iraq. "Go massive. Sweep it all
> up. Things related and not."
>
> How about this, directed at any nation or person who would question
> means taken by the United States in response by George Bush, September
> 20, 2001: "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make.
> Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
>
> Rumsfeld, with Known and Unknown; Condoleezza Rice with No Higher
> Honor; and Dick Cheney, In My Time
> (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/25/dick-cheney-book-us-tactics)
> are hustling books, making the most of the anniversary as an ...
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  Af/Pak & Libya News (9/6/2011)         


Author: dumpster4
Date: Sep 6, 2011 18:33

American working for Pentagon found dead in Kabul:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44405572/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

In Pakistan, suicide bombings are part of rhythm of life:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-pakistan-911-20110906,0,7752766...

Doctor who helped CIA barred from leaving Pakistan:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ieSmYdPFhA9D0EundXl9Y9ktpAmg?docId...

Explosives Lab Found In Southern Afghanistan:

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/GeneralNews.aspx?Id=1707525&SM=1

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Libya news:

The Great Escape:

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/libya/articles/20110906.aspx

Libyan convoys in Niger, may be Gaddafi deal:

http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-army-convoy-niger-may-gadaffi-deal-030824775.html;_ylt...

Kadhafi slogan turns into reality -- for his foes:

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Kadhafi_slogan_turns_into_reality_for_his_foes_999...

China denies providing weapons to Libya:

http://www.defencetalk.com/china-denies-providing-weapons-to-libya-36781/

U.S. pulls back from lead role in conflicts: IISS:
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  Re: Af/Pak & Libya News (9/5/2011)         


Author: William Black
Date: Sep 6, 2011 13:40

On 06/09/11 11:07, SolomonW wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT), dumpster4@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> If I was the Israelis, I would be laying mines in the area now.

They can't, it could be considered an act of war.

As regards the Turks, the Turkish military isn't behind their
government on that one. All Israel has to do is express a perfectly
legitimate interest in the fate of the Kurdish people under Turkish rule
and say something nice about their aspirations for statehood.

The Turkish army will promptly start seeing Mossad men under under
Kurdish bed and, reasonably, start getting worried.

I'd be dead worried if my government upset a strong and sophisticated
ally who has the ability to turn a small and disorganised terrorist
group on my doorstep into something far nastier just because someone in
the government is playing silly political games for no discernible gain.
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  John McCain Praises Father's Whitewashing of Israel's Attack on the USS LIBERTY!         


Author: NOMOREWARS_FORISRAEL
Date: Sep 6, 2011 13:31

John McCain Praises Father's Whitewashing of Israel's Attack on the
USS LIBERTY!

Praise for The Liberty Incident

"After years of research for this book, Judge A. Jay Cristol (an
Israel firster of Jewish descent) has reached a similar conclusion to
one my father reached in his June 18, 1967, endorsement of the
findings of the court of inquiry. I commend Judge Cristol for his
thoroughness and fairness, and I commend this work."
- SEN. JOHN McCAIN

http://youtu.be/0q7yEnMjQ6U - Ralph Nader calls into question John
McCain's patriotism and loyalty to the United States.

Sailing to the Scene of the Crime: ATTACK ON THE USS LIBERTY (John
McCain and admiral Father shown and mentioned in following youtube):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyrJVNcAXxI

Attack on the Liberty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymqQJDzmc4

Listen to the comment by USS Liberty survivor Phil Tourney for Toronto
Sun journalist Eric Margolis (via clicking on his picture at
http://tinyurl.com/philoncspan) on C-SPAN's 'Washington Journal'.
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  Re: Dealing with the IED campaign (was Af/Pak & Libya News (8/5/2011))         


Author: La N.
Date: Aug 18, 2011 09:10

"Kerryn Offord" uclive.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:j2fstt$m46$1@dont-email.me...
> On 8/17/2011 7:38 PM, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>> On 16/08/2011 09:55, William Black wrote:
>>> On 08/16/2011 11:18 AM, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>> On 15/08/2011 07:44, La N. wrote:
>>>>> "Kerryn Offord"uclive.ac.nz> wrote in message
>>>>> news:j29qtf$o5f$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 8/15/2011 11:36 AM, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
>>>>>>> In article,
>>>>>>> Kerryn Offorduclive.ac.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Security is a significant component(or at least it should be) of a
>>>>>>>> "successful" hearts and minds program fighting an insurgency.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not just safety from the insurgents.. you also want civilians to be
>>>>>>>> safe
>>>>>>>> from the people claiming to be protecting you.. ...
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  Battleground Europe: World War II Online (Computer Game)         


Author: David E. Powell
Date: Aug 18, 2011 08:39

http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/

Be warned the learning curve is huge and you will die a lot and often
very badly in those first weeks, especially the first few days. I have
played mainly as Allied though also as Axis sometimes, to see as much
of the game as possible. It is a hugely in depth game.

Players control Naval Ships, Airplanes, Infantry Soldiers,
Paratroopers, Armed Scout Cars and Tanks, Transport Trucks, Antitank
Guns and Antiaircraft Guns. There are limited AI defenses in some
areas,...
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  Af/Pak & Libya News (8/17/2011)         


Author: dumpster4
Date: Aug 17, 2011 18:45

Taliban, criminals get $360 million from US taxes:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171605/ns/politics/

Foreign Wimps Fail At Jihad:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20110817.aspx

Midair Collision Between a C-130 and a UAV:

http://defensetech.org/2011/08/17/midair-collision-between-a-c-130-and-a-uav/

Motorcycle bomb explodes in southern Afghan market:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44163485/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

Whatever Works:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairw/articles/20110817.aspx

CID combats corruption in Afghanistan:

http://www.defencetalk.com/cid-combats-corruption-in-afghanistan-36435/

U.S. must stick it out with Pakistan, leaders say:

http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/08/16/secdef-yes-weve-got-to-look-at-retirement-cost.../

Puma UAV Guides B-1 Attacks:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage...

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Libya news:

NBC: US sends more Predator drones to Libya:
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  Re: Af/Pak & Libya News (8/16/2011)         


Author: dott.Piergiorgio
Date: Aug 17, 2011 15:01

Il 16/08/2011 20:04, dumpster4@hotmail.com ha scritto:



Many links are truncated and gives inevitable 404's....

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.
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  Re: Two shuttles meet on the ground         


Author: bob haller
Date: Aug 17, 2011 13:22

On Aug 16, 8:35 pm, Snidely gmail.com> wrote:
> Cynthia Smith scribbled something like ...
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 8/13/2011 9:27 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
>>> For the ferry flights atop the 747, does the lack of engines cause some
>>> centre of gravity issues ?
>
>> The shuttle made the trip many dozens of times.  What do you think?
>
> He thinks it is worth asking if there is an issue, and if so what the
> technique for dealing with it is.
>
> All those ferry trips tell us that any issues were resolved, not that there
> were no issues.
>
> (And some of those flights had engines ... following landings at Edwards or
> White Sands.)
>
> /dps ...
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  Football's Back!         


Author: Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Date: Aug 12, 2011 06:28

Orton or Tebow...I say Orton, but I'd like to know if Tebow
can earn his $11 million.

Vic!...nuff said

Seahawks...all 3 QBs looked good.
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