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Wednesday, 19 December 2007 (NWBC 332) Thabo Mbeki, who has questioned the
"AIDS" terror hoax, defeated by a demagogue stooge of the US imperialists

2007-12-19, 16:10 GMT:

In the recent election for leadership of the ruling party the ANC in South
Africa, that country's present president, Thabo Mbeki, was defeated by the
opposing candidate, Jacob Zuma, and by a wide margin too, 1,505 delegates'
votes against 2,329. There are reports about this by The Telegraph and The
Independent (UK) and FAZ (Germany) today and one, expecting the result, by CNN
from yesterday.

[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/18/wanc218.xml

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/africa/article3263524.ece

http://www.faz.net/s/RubFC06D389EE76479E9E76425072B196C3/Doc~EC71B0660844741298
A0A15A071537E31~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/12/18/south.africa.anc.ap/index.html]

This clearly is an event that disfavours the interests of the people in South
Africa and in other African countries, and one that's a result of, and shows
up, the considerable influence of the US imperialists, including their mass
media, in South Africa, where they now, after many years of efforts in that
direction, have managed to pressure and swindle the majority of the ANC
leadership into taking such a decision. This decision, in two important
respects at least, outside observers can clearly ascertain is a bad one.

A result of it is expected, by the newspapers mentioned, to be that Zuma will
become president of South Africa too in 2009 when Mbeki's present term as such
expires, and that the latter until then will be a "lame-duck" president.

What were and are the issues of contention between Mbeki, on the one hand, and
Zuma, on the other?

Today's article in The Telegraph shows up two of them, saying i.a.:


"He [Mr Zuma] has called for Aids and crime to be 'treated as national
emergencies' — issues which Mr Mbeki has been severely criticised over.

He would also take a much tougher stance against Robert Mugabe, partly because
his supporters have links with the Zimbabwean opposition Movement for
Democratic Change.

Mr Zuma has condemned the South African leader’s 'quiet diplomacy' in Zimbabwe,
saying: 'When history eventually deals with the dictators, those who stood by
and watched the deterioration of nations should bear the consequences.'"


Already this last shows Zuma up as a stooge of the imperialists in general and
of the US ones in particular', since it's they who with massive actions of
overt and covert boycotts and "sanctions" against Zimbabwe since many years
back have caused the today disastrous situation in that country's economy,
mendaciously blaming this on Mugabe, who has opposed their interests and
defended those of the people, and whom they therefore are trying to oust too.
On this, see the articles by Stephen Gowans and John Dziva-Kuvita reproduced at
my homepage, index, 10.08.2007 respectively 22.11.2007.

Some details in the reports by the European bourgeois newspapers indicate that
Jacob Zuma in several other respects too is a particularly rotten egg, whom at
least some forces within the bourgeoisie in the UK and Germany - in contrast to
their "big ally" in the USA - don't favour very much at all, on account of
fears they have that his policies may damage South Africa's economy. A
commentator in The Independent, for instance, yesterday wrote i.a.:

[http://news.independent.co.uk/world/africa/article3260704.ece]


"It is as a contest between the head and the heart that one can define the
rowdy electoral contest under way for the ANC presidency, a contest whose
outcome this week could determine whether South Africa remains for the rest of
the African continent a model of democratic stability and macroeconomic health
or dwindles into slow decay."


But the issue of the "AIDS" terror hoax no doubt has been a quite important one
in this conflict within the ruling circles of South Africa. And it's likely
that Mbeki's standpoint on it, actually a unique one among (leading) bourgeois
politicians in any country, from the year 2000 on and upheld by him more or
less consistently during at least a decade, which earned him some unusually
loud arch-reactionary howling from the US-imperialism-controlled media, has
made the US imperialists engage in some particularly massive pressure and
subversion activities within South Africa too, in order to bring Mbeki down on
that account.

The big "AIDS virus" terror campaign, one of the inventions of the US
imperialists' military-directed "EIS" ("Epidemic Intelligence Service"), a "CIA
within medicine", has been perpetrated in the world since the early/mid-1980s,
with the object of terrorizing people everywhere, killing many with poisonous
phony "medicines" "against" a purported "virus", "HIV", which in reality never
has existed at all, and not least aiming to infect relations between men and
women everywhere and also those between Africans and others - to make people
suspicious of each other and thus counteract the tendency in the world for
practically everybody to unite against their actual common enemy, that small
minority of the ruling imperialist bourgeoisie.

Already in the early 1990s, some uncorrupted scientists in several countries
demonstrated that those various afflictions which, terror-propagandistically,
had all been renamed "AIDS" by the imperialists' medical establishments and
propaganda organs from the year 1984 on - over 25 different such diseases in
all, with different "definitions" of "AIDS" on different continents too, and
the "definitions" being changed from time to time - could not possibly be
caused by a virus. On this, see for instance the Australia-based
www.virusmyth.net.

The most advanced and consistent among those scientists, Stefan Lanka, Germany,
found and demonstrated publicly too, that there was and is *no* "HIV" at all,
and later also that there is not even *any* virus of any kind that causes
diseases in humans, animals or plants. On this, see for instance two articles
of his reproduced at my homepage, index, 22.02.2006 respectively 11.04.2006,
with references also to further websites with earlier articles.

[http://www.rolf-martens.com/UNITE%%21%%20Infos/webstyle1/unite_info_251en.html

http://www.rolf-martens.com/UNITE%%21%%20Infos/webstyle1/unite_info_256en.html]

Despite these exposures, already in the 1990s, of the massive "HIV"/"AIDS"
propaganda of the imperialists as a complete hoax, that propaganda and the mass
poisoning of people with "medicines" purportedly "against AIDS" continued
unabated. In the year 2000, however, president Mbeki of South Africa undertook
the unique action, for any leader of a country, to invite also some critics of
that propaganda to a conference on "AIDS", one which was held in Durban in that
year.

Mbeki took up the standpoint that the definition, causation, treatment and
prevention of [so-called] "AIDS" should be investigated scientifically. That
had so far not been done at all by the medical establishments controlled by the
imperialists - these certainly did not want, and still today absolutely do not
want, their big lies on this subject to be scrutinized.

This call by Mbeki was supported by a number of (rather small) organizations in
several countries, which jointly set up an Internet petition for supporting
that call. It still is online, now has 11,684 signatories (including me, from
back in August 2000 when I got tipped off about the website www.virusmyth.net);
its latest was added yesterday 18.12.2007. This still is a not very large
number of people, of course, but the truth about the enormous and very vile
"HIV"/"AIDS" scam does continue to seep out, in many countries.

[http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/news/mbeki.htm]

Mbeki himself never got to learn the full truth about it - that important fact,
above all, that there was and is no "HIV" at all. Stefan Lanka for instance was
prevented from attending that conference in Durban in 2000, above all by an
influential "AIDS critic" who was first a sincere such but who later turned
around to help the imperialist swindlers on this: Peter Duesberg, the USA.

The US imperialists, nevertheless, were and still are furious about this action
by Mbeki, which had important positive effects internationally and which among
other things helped such articles to appear in South Africa itself as one by
the investigating journalist Anthony Brink in 2002, "The Trouble with
Nevirapine", which I've reproduced at my homepage as "UNITE! Info #182en", part
1/8 etc. It's about a purported "AIDS medicine" which "replaced" an earlier and
obviously very poisonous one, AZT, and turned out to be equally murderous.

As one example of how the loud and mass murderous howling by the US
imperialists' mass media about "HIV"/"AIDS", and against Mbeki's putting a
certain spoke in their wheels on this, has continued also in recent years, here
are some lines from an article in the New York Times on 04.06.2006:

[http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/opinion/04moore.html]


"[Heading:] Deadly Quackery [which, on the contrary, is what the NYT etc etc
themselves are making propaganda for and are perpetrating - RM]

H.I.V. causes AIDS. This is not a controversial claim but an established fact,
based on more than 20 years of solid science. It is as certain as the descent
of humans from apes and the falling of dropped objects to the ground.
...
The theory, which we call AIDS denialism, has gained such currency with
President Thabo Mbeki of South Africa that his administration is reluctant to
expand access to antiretroviral drugs. [Which are being pressed on to the
people in South Africa and other countries by the US imperialists, all of them
extremely poisonous and doing nothing but harm, which is one of the main
"points" of this entire terror hoax. - RM]
...
There is a real risk that a new generation of Americans could be persuaded that
H.I.V. either doesn't exist [the imperialists themselves have to admit that
rather many already have seen through this hoax of theirs for mass murder - RM]
or is harmless, that safe sex isn't important and that they don't need to
protect their children from this deadly virus. A resurgence of denialism in the
United States would have far reaching effects on the global AIDS pandemic, just
as it already has in South Africa."


Which is why these crooks and their colleagues too, among the US imperialists,
so very much have "needed to" topple Mbeki as president of South Africa.

Something very deadly, in this connection and in many others, does indeed exist
on earth: The Human Imperialist Vampires.


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Rolf Martens
Malmö, Sweden
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