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Author: Vladimir Bondarenko
Date: Mar 30, 2008 05:05

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Can Maple 11 calculate the TABLE integrals?

Enjoy yet another VM machine discovery.

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Mathematica 6.0.2

Integrate[1/z^2,{z,1,I Infinity}]

1

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Derive 6.1

INT(1/z^2,z,1,#i*inf)

1

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MuPAD 4.0.2

int(1/z^2, z = 1..I*infinity);

1

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Now, what about Maplesoft, after 25+ years of Maple development?

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Maple 11.02> int(1/z^2, z = 1..I*infinity);
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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: Vladimir Bondarenko
Date: Mar 30, 2008 05:27

Maple 11.02> int(1/(1+z)^2, z = 0..I*infinity);
Maple 11.02> int(1/(1+z)^2, z = 1..I*infinity);

1
int(1/(1+z)^2,z = 1 .. infinity*I)

Enjoy!

On Mar 30, 5:05 am, Vladimir Bondarenko cybertester.com> wrote:
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>
> Can Maple 11 calculate the TABLE integrals?
>
> Enjoy yet another...
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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: Mate
Date: Mar 30, 2008 06:59

On Mar 30, 3:27 pm, Vladimir Bondarenko cybertester.com> wrote:
> Maple 11.02> int(1/(1+z)^2, z = 0..I*infinity);
> Maple 11.02> int(1/(1+z)^2, z = 1..I*infinity);
>
> 1
> int(1/(1+z)^2,z = 1 .. infinity*I)
>
> Enjoy!
>

One must be very careful when using such "complex infinities".
It is much better to transform first the integral e.g. over
[0,infinity)
DERIVE simply computes INT(f,a,b) = F(b) - F(a) where F is an
antiderivative,
even if a,b are "infinities". Do you think that this is a so smart
approach?
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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: Vladimir Bondarenko
Date: Mar 30, 2008 07:25

I did expect a comment like yours (about the complex plane).

I agree. In this respect, Derive's approach is (too) simplistic.

But what you'd say about Mathematica 6 and MuPAD 4?
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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: Vladimir Bondarenko
Date: Mar 30, 2008 17:19

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Just a remark on the ubiqiutous Maple bugs...

# Jacques Carette, Mar 24, 2008

Maple 11.02> assume(z>0);
Maple 11.02> is(sin(z)^2+cos(z)^2*z^2 > 0);

false (!) # Maple bugs strike again!

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So, what you'd say about Mathematica 6 and MuPAD 4?

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> On Mar 30, 6:59 am, Mate wrote:

On Mar 30, 7:25 am, Vladimir Bondarenko cybertester.com> wrote:
> I did expect a comment like yours (about the complex plane).
>
> I agree. In this respect, Derive's approach is (too) simplistic...
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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: Vladimir Bondarenko
Date: Mar 30, 2008 17:29

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Just yet another ubiqiutous Maple 11 bug...

# Axel Vogt, Mar 28, 2008

Maple 11.02> Ei(1,1):
Maple 11.02> evalf(%%=convert(%%,Sum));

.2193839344 = 1.

# Maple bugs strike again!

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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Date: Mar 31, 2008 02:18

Vladimir Bondarenko wrote:
> ...........................................
>
> Just yet another ubiqiutous Maple 11 bug...
>
> # Axel Vogt, Mar 28, 2008
>
> Maple 11.02> Ei(1,1):
> Maple 11.02> evalf(%%=convert(%%,Sum));
>
> .2193839344 = 1.
>
> # Maple bugs strike again!
>
> ...........................................

honestly you should give reference to http://www.mapleprimes.com/tracker
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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: Vladimir Bondarenko
Date: Mar 31, 2008 03:33

Agree! The reader would feel the problem better if given
the context and accompanying instructive discussion.

So here is the link to a hot Axel Vogt's Ei-related bug
description a simplified form of which I presented:

http://www.mapleprimes.com/blog/axelvogt/errrexponentialintegralsum

Savour! ;)

I can only sing in sync with Herr Vogt, Arghrrrr! ;-)
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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: Vladimir Bondarenko
Date: Mar 31, 2008 13:10

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Re: Maplesoft. Welcome to Hell!         


Author: David W. Cantrell
Date: Apr 2, 2008 17:36

Vladimir Bondarenko cybertester.com> wrote:
> I did expect a comment like yours (about the complex plane).
>
> I agree. In this respect, Derive's approach is (too) simplistic.

I must say that I don't agree. It seems to me that Derive's approach here
is theoretically correct and as simple as possible.
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