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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:10

In article <63iho1F27f59eU1@mid.individual.net>,
ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
>
>
> "Floyd L. Davidson" apaflo.com> wrote in message
> news:87bq5opudb.fld@apaflo.com
> : > "Ivor Jones" wrote:
>
> : >>Explain again what exactly your *software* (as opposed
> : >>to your eyes) does with quote marks anyway..?
> : >
> : > I thought you knew all about this???
> : >
> : > Specifically my software is the gnus package running
> : > under XEmacs. I have it configured to display each
> : > level of quoted text with a distinct font face. In this
> : > case the significant difference is just the color of the
> : > text.
> : >
> : > It can also do things like reformat quoted text, and ...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:16

In article <877igcpua6.fld@apaflo.com>, floyd@apaflo.com says...
> JosephKK yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:40:31 -0900, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
>>Davidson) wrote:
>>
>>>krw att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>>>In article <87d4q8sc5k.fld@apaflo.com>, floyd@apaflo.com says...
>>>>> krw att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>>>>>In article <87hcfkseyr.fld@apaflo.com>, floyd@apaflo.com says...
>>>>>>> krw att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>In article <47CDEAD6.2D67BCF3@yahoo.com>, cbfalconer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>says...
>>>>>>>>> Foxtrot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... snip ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there is a greaterlikelihood of hum if I connect a "2 wire"
>>>>>>>>>> phone extension by using one wire from a twisted pair and taking
>>>>>>>>>> the second wire from a different twisted pair?
>>>>>>>>> ...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:31

"krw" att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
news:MPG.223e004375fc73209898e4@news.individual.net
: > In article <63iho1F27f59eU1@mid.individual.net>,
: > ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...

[snip]

: >> Ok, fine. But you are over-complicating things IMHO.
: >> Why do you need different fonts for different levels
: >> of quotes..?
: >
: > That is his choice, one that you are defeating for not
: > other reason than you vanity (which this thread is
: > likely stroking).

Exactly - it's *his* choice, so why should *I* have to modify my
long-established system to accommodate him and a handful of people who
can't cope..?
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:34

"krw" att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
news:MPG.223dff74f9f306b09898e3@news.individual.net

[snip]

: > *MY* system is configured properly. *YOU* have the
: > problem. ...and more than one.

Eh..? *I* don't have a problem. Seems to me it's *you* that has the
problem, if you can't cope with a simple : character in a plain text
message.

Bye.

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:36

"krw" att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
news:MPG.223dff2f50174ee99898e2@news.individual.net
: > In article <63gmrhF27s269U1@mid.individual.net>,
: > ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...

[snip]

: >> Which makes it the *software's* problem, not mine. If
: >> your software can't do what you want it to, get
: >> software that can.
: >
: > This is only true if your intention is to write for
: > yourself. In that case, why bother the rest of us?

Nobody's forcing you to read my message. Which is written in plain text,
by the way. If you can't cope with a simple : character in a bit of ASCII
text, tough.

Bye.

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Stuart
Date: Mar 9, 2008 13:38

In article ,
Tom Horne veriqrmzon.net> wrote:
> Much will depend on the power and light wiring method used and the
> quality of the cable used to carry your telephone circuits. What do you
> mean when you say "flex". I suspect you'll be amused to learn that in
> the USA that word is electricians short hand for flexible metallic
> conduit. I doubt that United Kingdom "flex" is anything like Flexible
> Metallic Conduit a photograph of which can be found at

Correct.

The usual meaning is a flexible, rubber or PVC covered, two or three core
cable, used to connect an appliance to its electrical source. This may be
via a plug and socket in the case of something like a vacuum cleaner, or
fixed as in the cable suspending a light fitting from the ceiling fixture.

--
Stuart Winsor

From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.

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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Stuart
Date: Mar 9, 2008 13:47

In article <63940jF26jn3fU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "CBFalconer" yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:47CF3D42.810AA5C9@yahoo.com
> : : Ivor Jones wrote:
> [snip]
> : : I replaced your non-standard (: :) quote markers with
> : : the normal '>'. Please don't use thos non-standard
> : : characters. They foul up other software.
> With respect, and without wishing to start a row, that's *your* problem.
> I use non-standard quote marks for a purpose. If your system can't cope
> with that, then it's up to *you* to do something about it. I have been
> using the quote marks I use for several years and you are the first to
> complain.

Can't say as it caused me any issues here except the fact of ": :" putting
it down to the second level of quoting as if you had used "> >"

--
Stuart Winsor

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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Stuart
Date: Mar 9, 2008 14:02

In article <63ishuF282s6lU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ivor Jones wrote:
> Nobody's forcing you to read my message. Which is written in plain text,
> by the way. If you can't cope with a simple : character in a bit of
> ASCII text, tough.

I think the only real issue is that ":" could appear naturally in a "plain
text" email as it is a standard punctuation mark, ">" is far less likely
though I suppose ": :" is unlikely too.

--
Stuart Winsor

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For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 9, 2008 14:06

"Stuart" dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4f7d88c922SW_NOSPAM@dsl.pipex.com
: > In article <63ishuF282s6lU1@mid.individual.net>,
: > Ivor Jones wrote:

: >> Nobody's forcing you to read my message. Which is
: >> written in plain text, by the way. If you can't cope
: >> with a simple : character in a bit of ASCII text,
: >> tough.
: >
: > I think the only real issue is that ":" could appear
: > naturally in a "plain text" email as it is a standard
: > punctuation mark, ">" is far less likely though I
: > suppose ": :" is unlikely too.

But what is the objection..? I just don't get it. I've been on Usenet for
over 10 years and nobody has *ever* complained about this before.

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 9, 2008 14:07

"Stuart" dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4f7d876e8aSW_NOSPAM@dsl.pipex.com

[snip]

: > Can't say as it caused me any issues here except the
: > fact of ": :" putting it down to the second level of
: > quoting as if you had used "> >"

Fixed. That *was* a misconfiguration ;-)

Ivor
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