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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 8, 2008 15:46

"JosephKK" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f156t3d2h5t6gn0vpqfn7css57k13acd49@4ax.com
: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 02:43:18 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: > wrote:

[snip]

: >>It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't
: >>cope.
: >>
: >>Ivor
: >
: > That depends on how non-standard you are. Just because
: > some newsreaders can cope does not make it standard or
: > right. Your stuff don't bother me none. News clients
: > that produce non-quotable posts do bother me, it makes
: > trying to reply worthless.

Which makes it the *software's* problem, not mine. If your software can't
do what you want it to, get software that can.

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: kony
Date: Mar 8, 2008 16:23

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:45:29 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
wrote:
>"Floyd L. Davidson" apaflo.com> wrote in message
>news:87k5kcq5u6.fld@apaflo.com
>
>[snip]
>
>: > So just how many different possible quote characters is
>: > my software supposed to work for?...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: kony
Date: Mar 8, 2008 16:25

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:58:41 -0800, JosephKK
yahoo.com> wrote:
>I think i still have an old trimline. If i can find it, maybe i
>should plug it in. Not much advantage though, i will still have my
>cell. I wonder how long the cell towers will function in a power
>outage. The telco backup may not be any better. Maybe it is time to
>get my amateur licence and a radio.

I've never had the telco power go out with a power outtage,
FWIW, but I've never had to endure one that was lengthly
(more than about a day). Since most outtages tend to be
localized to a small area a cellphone would certainly be
useful in most outtages.
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Floyd L. Davidson
Date: Mar 8, 2008 17:18

"Ivor Jones" wrote:
>"Floyd L. Davidson" apaflo.com> wrote in message
>news:87k5kcq5u6.fld@apaflo.com
>
>[snip]
>
>: > So just how many different possible quote characters is
>: > my software supposed to work for? Idiots who want to
>: > use a non-standard quote character can choose from 100
>: > or so...
>
>My software (OE Quotefix, also OE as supplied) has a choice of three - the
>standard > or : or |

My software allows me to use virtually *anything*. It
could be a single character, or a string of characters.
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Floyd L. Davidson
Date: Mar 8, 2008 17:20

JosephKK yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:40:31 -0900, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
>Davidson) wrote:
>
>>krw att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>>In article <87d4q8sc5k.fld@apaflo.com>, floyd@apaflo.com says...
>>>> krw att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>>>>In article <87hcfkseyr.fld@apaflo.com>, floyd@apaflo.com says...
>>>>>> krw att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>>>>>>In article <47CDEAD6.2D67BCF3@yahoo.com>, cbfalconer@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>says...
>>>>>>>> Foxtrot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... snip ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there is a greaterlikelihood of hum if I connect a "2 wire"
>>>>>>>>> phone extension by using one wire from a twisted pair and taking
>>>>>>>>> the second wire from a different twisted pair?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. The idea of twisted pairs is that an interference appears on ...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: CBFalconer
Date: Mar 8, 2008 17:45

"Graham." wrote:
> "Ivor Jones" wrote in message
>> "kony" spam.com> wrote in message
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>:> I don't know about "only thing worse", there are lots of
>>:> worse things but make it a 4th complaint because it
>>:> should not be someone else's burden to cope with
>>:> non-standard quote marks - even if many newsreader apps
>>:> can do so.
>>
>> It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't cope.
>
> I think software developers sometimes call this kind of dilemma
> Postel's Law

It certainly establishes that my PLONK filter is correctly set.
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 9, 2008 09:27

"kony" spam.com> wrote in message
news:tdb6t356173885k40fpi1ti8kem6ptq9e8@4ax.com

[snip]

: > Explain why we should need software with certain feature
: > sets to reinterpret something so you don't have to
: > follow standards. The whole point of usenet is to NOT
: > need to do these things!

I don't understand why you need *software* (other than any standard
newsreader) to interpret what you're reading on the screen. I type words,
you read them - where does software come into it..? You can see perfectly
well which parts of the message I am quoting.

I ask again - what is *software* doing with my quote marks that upsets you
so much..?

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 9, 2008 09:31

"Floyd L. Davidson" apaflo.com> wrote in message
news:87bq5opudb.fld@apaflo.com
: > "Ivor Jones" wrote:

: >>Explain again what exactly your *software* (as opposed
: >>to your eyes) does with quote marks anyway..?
: >
: > I thought you knew all about this???
: >
: > Specifically my software is the gnus package...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:06

In article <63gmrhF27s269U1@mid.individual.net>,
ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
> "JosephKK" yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f156t3d2h5t6gn0vpqfn7css57k13acd49@4ax.com
> : > On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 02:43:18 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> : > wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> : >>It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't
> : >>cope.
> : >>
> : >>Ivor
> : >
> : > That depends on how non-standard you are. Just because
> : > some newsreaders can cope does not make it standard or
> : > right. Your stuff don't bother me none. News clients
> : > that produce non-quotable posts do bother me, it makes
> : > trying to reply worthless.
> ...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:07

In article <63g3keF26rv9fU1@mid.individual.net>,
ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
>
>
> "krw" att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
> news:MPG.223c9d106b41550b9898df@news.individual.net
> : > In article <63ffhgF27r9utU1@mid.individual.net>,
> : > ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
>
> [snip]
>
> : >> It's not misconfigured. Just configured differently.
> : >
> : > In this case, "differently" = "non-standard" =>
> : > misconfigured.
>
> How do I know it's not your system that's misconfigured..? If it were
> configured correctly, surely it could cope with a : instead of a > ??
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