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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: CBFalconer
Date: Mar 7, 2008 07:13

phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
... snip ...
>
>> Indeed. But even three complaints in 10+ years (and I have my
>> doubts on the validity of at least one of them) is not worth
>> worrying about. I post a *lot* of articles on Usenet in 20+
>> groups, 3 complaints doesn't even register. 3000 might, or even
>> 300. But 3..? Try harder.
>>
>> BTW nobody has yet mentioned which piece of flaky software gets
>> upset by a : instead of a >
>
> It looks like maybe PCPaul's software, which identifies itself as
> "Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)" might be getting them confused. ...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: kony
Date: Mar 7, 2008 15:25

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:23:55 -0500, "daestrom"
NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
>news:63940jF26jn3fU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "CBFalconer" yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:47CF3D42.810AA5C9@yahoo.com...
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 7, 2008 18:41

ipal.net> wrote in message
news:fqrka301cph@news1.newsguy.com

[snip]

: > What can be confusing to people is the double ": :"
: > usage. That makes
: > it look like you quoted with ":" what your previous
: > poster quoted with ":". So instead of that quoted text
: > being understood as the part of
: > the parent post, it gets misunderstood as part of the
: > grandparent post.
: > It also looks like you or your software replaced other
: > people's quoting character with ":" or ": :". Whatever
: > anyone uses, that should be
: > left as is (unless it is clearly broken).

It's OE Quotefix and I've found the setting that caused it to convert the
existing quote marks and I've disabled that, so they should now be as they
were.

Hope this helps.

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 7, 2008 18:43

"kony" spam.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

: > I don't know about "only thing worse", there are lots of
: > worse things but make it a 4th complaint because it
: > should not be someone else's burden to cope with
: > non-standard quote marks - even if many newsreader apps
: > can do so.

It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't cope.

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Floyd L. Davidson
Date: Mar 7, 2008 19:51

"Ivor Jones" wrote:
>"kony" spam.com> wrote in message
>news:08j3t3pi9cmhi3ci5r1lgvei4fmdg1l0po@4ax.com
>
>[snip]
>
>: > I don't know about "only thing worse", there are lots of
>: > worse things but make it a 4th complaint because it
>: > should not be someone else's burden to cope with
>: > non-standard quote marks - even if many newsreader apps
>: > can do so.
>
>It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't cope.

My software copes with anything reasonable, but not with
idiots who misconfigure their software.

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: kony
Date: Mar 7, 2008 21:41

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 02:43:18 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
wrote:
>
>
>"kony" spam.com> wrote in message
>news:08j3t3pi9cmhi3ci5r1lgvei4fmdg1l0po@4ax.com
>
>[snip]
>
>: > I don't know about "only thing worse", there are lots of
>: > worse things but make it a 4th complaint because it
>: > should not be someone else's burden to cope with
>: > non-standard quote marks - even if many newsreader apps
>: > can do so.
>
>It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't cope.
>
>Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 8, 2008 04:35

"Floyd L. Davidson" apaflo.com> wrote in message
news:8763vxrhze.fld@apaflo.com
: > "Ivor Jones" wrote:
: >>"kony" spam.com> wrote in message
: >>news:08j3t3pi9cmhi3ci5r1lgvei4fmdg1l0po@4ax.com
: >>
: >>[snip]
: >>
: >>: > I don't know about "only thing worse", there are
: >>: > lots of worse things but make it a 4th complaint
: >>: > because it should not be someone else's burden to
: >>: > cope with non-standard quote marks - even if many
: >>: > newsreader apps can do so.
: >>
: >>It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't
: >>cope.
: >
: > My software copes with anything reasonable, but not with
: > idiots who misconfigure their software.
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Ivor Jones
Date: Mar 8, 2008 04:37

"kony" spam.com> wrote in message
news:qn94t3di3ucrod0pqi0om416i6v87frqdj@4ax.com
: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 02:43:18 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: > wrote:
:
[snip]

: >>It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't
: >>cope.
: >>
: >>Ivor
: >
: > Yes it should because the whole point of usenet is the
: > simple and standard format it is presented in, versus
: > say a web forum.

Plain text. If you have a problem with that, then I'm sorry but it *is*
your problem. It's people who post in HTML and other strange formats that
are the problem.

Although even Outlook Express can cope with that.

Ivor
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Author: Graham.
Date: Mar 8, 2008 08:25

"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
news:63ecq9F26luhuU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "kony" spam.com> wrote in message
> news:08j3t3pi9cmhi3ci5r1lgvei4fmdg1l0po@4ax.com
> [snip]
>
> : > I don't know about "only thing worse", there are lots of
> : > worse things but make it a 4th complaint because it
> : > should not be someone else's burden to cope with
> : > non-standard quote marks - even if many newsreader apps
> : > can do so.
> It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't cope.
>
> Ivor

I think software developers sometimes call this kind of dilemma Postel's Law
.
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Re: Hum from phone wires running next to mains?         


Date: Mar 8, 2008 09:53

In article <63ecq9F26luhuU1@mid.individual.net>,
ivor@thisaddressis.invalid says...
>
>
> "kony" spam.com> wrote in message
> news:08j3t3pi9cmhi3ci5r1lgvei4fmdg1l0po@4ax.com
>
> [snip]
>
> : > I don't know about "only thing worse", there are lots of
> : > worse things but make it a 4th complaint because it
> : > should not be someone else's burden to cope with
> : > non-standard quote marks - even if many newsreader apps
> : > can do so.
>
> It shouldn't be *my* problem if your software can't cope.

Yes, if your intention here is to post for some reason other than to
read your own writing. That can be done without the expense of an
Internet connection.
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