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Author: Richard The Dreaded LibertarianRichard The Dreaded Libertarian Date: Jul 9, 2007 14:36
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:05:34 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:
> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in>> Yes, precisely. But I'm not allowed to do that - if I choose
>> not to pay those fees I never use, they will come and take my
>> money by force.
>>
> That's not getting off the green. That is squatting on the
> green.
What part of "never use" don't you understand?
Thanks,
Rich
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Author: Michael A. TerrellMichael A. Terrell Date: Jul 9, 2007 15:39
James Arthur wrote:
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> On Jul 7, 4:40 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net>
> wrote:>> James Arthur wrote:
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>>> On Jul 6, 7:40 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:>>>> James Arthur wrote:
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>>>>> But this presumes that health is improved by hiring more
>>>>> middlemen--2nd, 3rd and 4th parties. It isn't. Health is improved by
>>>>> walking and eating vegetables. It's cheaper than sickness, and more
>>>>> fun.
>>
>>>> Wow! If you knew what you're talking about the AMA would have a hit
>>>> contract out on you.
>>
>>> What I've said is what doctors have been screaming for years. If
>>> you follow the current literature, it's being re-confirmed time and ...
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Author: Michael A. TerrellMichael A. Terrell Date: Jul 9, 2007 15:47
MooseFET wrote:
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> I know that you didn't really mean that. I have read enough of what
> you have written to know that you would not wish harm on him, or me
> for that matter when I disagreed with you.
What I mean is that he can eat whatever he wants, and learn that his
hard and fast rules don't always apply. I have lots of people urging me
to become a vegetarian "To feel better!". If I reduce the meat in my
diet much I get VERY sick and so weak I can't even walk.
I can't eat rice anymore, because it isn't properly digested. It
takes days to a week to pass though my digestive system, leaving me in
pain the entire time. Some vegetables make me vomit minutes after I eat
them, yet I used to eat them every week. The ones I can eat, I'm told
not to. I've reached the point that I'm just going to do what works FOR
ME, and ignore everyone else.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
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Author: Michael A. TerrellMichael A. Terrell Date: Jul 9, 2007 15:54
James Arthur wrote:
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> On Jul 7, 4:46 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net>
> wrote:>> MooseFET wrote:
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>>> On Jul 6, 8:40 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:>>>> James Arthur wrote:
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>>>>> But this presumes that health is improved by hiring more
>>>>> middlemen--2nd, 3rd and 4th parties. It isn't. Health is improved by
>>>>> walking and eating vegetables. It's cheaper than sickness, and more
>>>>> fun.
>>
>>>> Wow! If you knew what you're talking about the AMA would have a hit
>>>> contract out on you. There are a lot of conditions that this simple
>>>> minded concept won't prevent, or cure.
>>
>>> He doesn't seem to notice that in eating fruit, you are assuming it ...
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Author: Simon S AysdieSimon S Aysdie Date: Jul 9, 2007 17:23
On Jul 9, 2:30 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net>
wrote:> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:24:50 -0700, MooseFET wrote:
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> ...
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>> Your failure is in seeing that it only takes a small fraction of the
>> population having evil intent to make trouble. Take a look at the
>> real world and you will see this proven over and over.
>
> Oh, I know that a small fraction of the population with evil intent makes
> trouble.
>
> They're called "governments".
"Those who, in Hayek's words, 'think that it is not the system which
we need fear, but the danger that it might be run by bad men,' are
na
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Author: MooseFETMooseFET Date: Jul 9, 2007 18:29
On Jul 9, 8:17 am, John Larkin
highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:01:32 -0700, joseph2k yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>>> Statism is a religion.
>>My religion is a very limited state, and even more limited corporations.
>
> But then nothing large-scale would ever be accomplished: roads,
Roads may be able to be done by smaller efforts. They wouldn't be
very nice or go in straight lines or anything but they may exist.
Stopping every 100 feet to pay a toll wouldn't bother people from the
east coast much. :)
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Author: MooseFETMooseFET Date: Jul 9, 2007 18:30
On Jul 9, 2:35 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net>
wrote:> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:28:29 -0700, MooseFET wrote:
>> On Jul 7, 3:20 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net>>>> That's very, very sad.
>
>> It would be if it was true. Equally sad is your child like trust that
>> because the majority are honest all will be.
>
> Maybe it would benefit you to grow up a little bit and learn to discern
> when a person is trustworthy.
No, it would do you some good. You think you can. This just means
you haven't met a good con artist yet.
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Author: MooseFETMooseFET Date: Jul 9, 2007 18:36
On Jul 9, 11:24 am, Simon S Aysdie ti.com> wrote:> On Jul 9, 7:15 am, MooseFET rahul.net> wrote:
>>> On Jul 8, 10:23 am, Simon S Aysdie ti.com> wrote:>
>>> On Jul 7, 12:58 pm, MooseFET rahul.net> wrote:>>>> You don't have a free market if people take whatever they want by
>>>> force. You are assuming that a free market can exist without a court
>>>> system and a police force to ensure that the market is in fact free.
>
>>> The point is not to "have no courts and no justice system." The point
>>> is to have a free one -- not a state-run monopoly.
>
> I should not have wrote "one," as polycentric is the actual call.
If there are two and they disagree whos ruling wins?Do you fight over
it?
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Author: MooseFETMooseFET Date: Jul 9, 2007 18:50
On Jul 9, 11:04 am, Simon S Aysdie ti.com> wrote:> On Jul 9, 7:08 am, MooseFET rahul.net> wrote:
>>> [I]t says that when you take away government you get a new one.
>
> Umm, no. Nozick made arguments in Anarchy, State, and Utopia that a
> least a minimal state would (re-)emerge. Not everyone has found his
> arguments persuasive.
Not everyone has found the round earth theory persuasive. Every time
it is tried out, nobody sails off the edge. Simple real world
examples show that that is exactly what happens.
This is getting to be like the two mathematicians:
You: I have found a proof of the Jones Conjecture
Me: I have found a counter example
You: That's ok I've got two proofs.
Simple real world evidence trumps a mass of theory.
I am getting tired of this so I'll stop here for now.
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Author: MooseFETMooseFET Date: Jul 9, 2007 19:00
On Jul 9, 3:47 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net>
wrote:> MooseFET wrote:
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>> I know that you didn't really mean that. I have read enough of what
>> you have written to know that you would not wish harm on him, or me
>> for that matter when I disagreed with you.
>
> What I mean is that he can eat whatever he wants, and learn that his
> hard and fast rules don't always apply. I have lots of people urging me
> to become a vegetarian "To feel better!". If I reduce the meat in my
> diet much I get VERY sick and so weak I can't even walk.
Going vedetarian and having diabeties would be a bad combination IMO.
The place you can get your protein from always will carry a large carb
hit. Also, your body can convert protein to sugar if it really needs
to. Having extra protein allows your body to convert that instead of
some that you may need for later.
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