> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:14:03 -0700, MooseFET wrote:

>> On Jul 7, 12:54 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net>

>>> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:55:47 -0700, MooseFET wrote:

>>>> Armed thugs go to the highest bidder. He would not be able to afford
>>>> the protection the police and the courts now give him. Look at any
>>>> failed state where the police have been replaced by armed gangs to see
>>>> what happens.

>

>>> You're doing nothing but projecting your paranoia on me. I have no need
>>> of armed thugs, especially your armed thugs who steal my money to pay
>>> themselves.

>

>> No, I'm pointing out the serious flaw in your thinking that you just
>> seem unable to understand. Look at any failed state where the police
>> force can no longer control the streets.

>
> Those fail because the rulers believe that to "control the streets" is a
> good thing. The streets don't need to be "controlled" in a free society. ...

> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:58:24 -0700, MooseFET wrote:

>> On Jul 7, 12:44 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net>

>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:48:48 -0700, MooseFET wrote:

>>>> On Jul 5, 3:54 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net>

>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:36:05 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:

>>>>>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in

>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:53:28 +0000, Jasen Betts wrote:

>>>>>>>> noones forcing you to join, however if you want access to the
>>>>>>>> green...

>

>>>>>>> Oh, yeah? Try putting "$0.00" for "tax owed" on your IRS form,
>>>>>>> and see what "force" actually means...

>

>>>>>> so you want access to the green but you don't want to pay....

>

>>>>>> Spoiled Brat.

>

>>>>> What is this "access to the green" stuff you keep chanting? ...

> Orange juice isn't something I'd drink often--drinking instantly-
> available sugars (like juice) raises one's blood sugar faster than it
> can be handled. That's damaging. Eating an orange is much better--
> the juice is encapsulated by the fruit, released over time by
> digestion--which is slow--so the sugars are assimilated much more
> gradually.

> Don't believe me?

> Measure it yourself.

> That's what I did.[1] (I'm
> not diabetic, just curious.)

> Here's a few items from the budget:
>
> Military accounts for $1184 Billion
> Do you say you get nothing in return for that? I wouldn't really
> argue with you on that one because the bulk of it is totally a waste
> since it is being spent on stuff that reduces the security of the
> nation.
>
> Other foreign aid etc is $38214 Billion
> This mostly goes to the governments of other countries to get them to
> do things that the american people want them to do. Very little is
> given without some expected action in return.
>
> Space stuff accounts for $26636 Billion.
> This can also said to be a waste because I don't like Tang.

> MooseFET wrote:
>

>> On Jul 6, 8:40 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net>
>> wrote:

>>> James Arthur wrote:

>

>>>> But this presumes that health is improved by hiring more
>>>> middlemen--2nd, 3rd and 4th parties. It isn't. Health is improved by
>>>> walking and eating vegetables. It's cheaper than sickness, and more
>>>> fun.

>

>>> Wow! If you knew what you're talking about the AMA would have a hit
>>> contract out on you. There are a lot of conditions that this simple
>>> minded concept won't prevent, or cure.

>

>> He doesn't seem to notice that in eating fruit, you are assuming it
>> isn't poisonous. Even his own advice needs an FDA.

> ...

> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:56:17 -0700, MooseFET wrote:

>> War is often just large scale armed robbery. The US has many things
>> of value including the land it is on. Others might like to have those
>> things. Remember that the native americans didn't control their
>> borders and defend against invaders. Look what happened to them.
>> They didn't do anything to europe to be retaliated for.

>
> What good is radioactive dirt?

> "Bob Quintal" wrote in message
>
> news:Xns99629705E2A1BQuintal@66.150.105.47...
>

>> Public service medicine is based on theft???? I'm a Canadian.
>> Don't feed me that bulls#!t. Extorting lots of money for piss-
>> poor healthcare is theft.

>
> So, are you saying that Canada's heathcare system is theft / extortion /
> piss-poor, or what?
>
> I do seem to recall hearing that it can be damned hard to get a good doctor
> up there.

> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:28:51 -0500, Tim Williams wrote:

>> "Bob Quintal" wrote in message
>>news:Xns99629705E2A1BQuintal@66.150.105.47...

>>> Public service medicine is based on theft???? I'm a Canadian.
>>> Don't feed me that bulls#!t. Extorting lots of money for piss-
>>> poor healthcare is theft.

>

>> So, are you saying that Canada's heathcare system is theft / extortion /
>> piss-poor, or what?

>

>> I do seem to recall hearing that it can be damned hard to get a good doctor
>> up there.

>

>> (And yes, to be fair, it can be damned hard to PAY for a doctor down here.
>> And hard to find a good doctor even farther south, and so on. You get what
>> you pay (or don't) for, lawsuit insurance and other crappy fees
>> notwithstanding.)

> ...

> By "distributed" do you mean given without something being obtained in
> return?

> I do hope not because that is way off the mark. In any case,
> "most" also means "not all of" so you now must be agreeing that you
> should pay some taxes.