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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: Bob Quintal
Date: Jul 2, 2007 09:42

Jim Thompson My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in news:q95i83pvkedusi871r1cv8ctssje07ifam@4ax.com:
> Hillary "on behalf of the common good"

Ain't it just wonderful how the right wing neo-contservative
bloggers machine can turn the truth into an assault on democracy
and social justice.

Hillary is right.

--
Bob Quintal

PA is y I've altered my email address.

--
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: Chuck Harris
Date: Jul 6, 2007 05:10

Bob Quintal wrote:
> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
> news:pan.2007.07.05.22.54.39.208429@example.net:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:36:05 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:
>>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>> What is this "access to the green" stuff you keep chanting? I
>
> I stated that taxation is not theft. It's like a membership fee
> to a golf club. If you want to putt on the green you gotta pay
> the fee. If you don't want to putt on the greens, or drink in
> the clubhousew, get off the golf course...

The problem with your view, is it requires that private ownership
be null and void. I cannot own my part of the green, the government
does, and just lets me use it for a fee.

That is nothing but a socialist/communist form of government.
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: MooseFET
Date: Jul 6, 2007 06:26

On Jul 6, 5:10 am, Chuck Harris erols.com> wrote:
> Bob Quintal wrote:
>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>>news:pan.2007.07.05.22.54.39.208429@example.net:
>
>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:36:05 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:
>>>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>>> What is this "access to the green" stuff you keep chanting? I
>
>> I stated that taxation is not theft. It's like a membership fee
>> to a golf club. If you want to putt on the green you gotta pay
>> the fee. If you don't want to putt on the greens, or drink in
>> the clubhousew, get off the golf course...
>
> The problem with your view, is it requires that private ownership
> be null and void. I cannot own my part of the green, the government
> does, and...
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: MooseFET
Date: Jul 6, 2007 06:27

On Jul 6, 5:10 am, Chuck Harris erols.com> wrote:
> Bob Quintal wrote:
>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>>news:pan.2007.07.05.22.54.39.208429@example.net:
>
>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:36:05 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:
>>>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>>> What is this "access to the green" stuff you keep chanting? I
>
>> I stated that taxation is not theft. It's like a membership fee
>> to a golf club. If you want to putt on the green you gotta pay
>> the fee. If you don't want to putt on the greens, or drink in
>> the clubhousew, get off the golf course...
>
> The problem with your view, is it requires that private ownership
> be null and void. I cannot own my part of the green, the government
> does, and just lets me use it for a fee.
>
> That is nothing but a socialist/communist form of government.
> ...
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: Bob Quintal
Date: Jul 6, 2007 06:04

Chuck Harris erols.com> wrote in
news:6s-dnSOdqLFrrBPbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@rcn.net:
> Bob Quintal wrote:
>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>> news:pan.2007.07.05.22.54.39.208429@example.net:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:36:05 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:
>>>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>>> What is this "access to the green" stuff you keep chanting?
>>> I
>>
>> I stated that taxation is not theft. It's like a membership
>> fee to a golf club. If you want to putt on the green you
>> gotta pay the fee. If you don't want to putt on the greens,
>> or drink in the clubhousew, get off the golf course...
>
> The problem with your view, is it requires that private
> ownership be null and void. I cannot own my part of the
> green, the government does, and just lets me use it for a fee.
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: Chuck Harris
Date: Jul 6, 2007 07:31

Bob Quintal wrote:
> You can argue all you want. You don't need anybody's permission
> for that. You don't have enough brains to argue anything
> sensical. You just bitch, bitch, bitch. You whine just because
> you don't know anything else.

If you are an example of what having enough brains is like, then
I am quite happy to not have enough brains.
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: me
Date: Jul 6, 2007 09:47

Chuck Harris erols.com> wrote in news:G-
WdnQ7fi8d5zxPbnZ2dnUVZ_ufinZ2d@rcn.net:
>Bob Quintal wrote:
>
>> You can argue all you want. You don't need anybody's permission
>> for that. You don't have enough brains to argue anything
>> sensical. You just bitch, bitch, bitch. You whine just because
>> you don't know anything else.
>
>If you are an example of what having enough brains is like, then
>I am quite happy to not have enough brains.
>

Ignorance is bliss...

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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: Simon S Aysdie
Date: Jul 6, 2007 12:27

On Jul 6, 6:26 am, MooseFET rahul.net> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 5:10 am, Chuck Harris erols.com> wrote:
> You make the choice to use the system by
> living in the country, making contracts and driving cars.

Mere question begging.
>> With taxation, the government
>> chooses what they I will buy, on my behalf, with my money, not me.
>
> You choose which country to live in and whether to drive a car and
> whether to make a contract etc.

Mere question begging.
> Everything that causes you to owe a
> tax is your choice.

lol
>> What if I don't want their protection? I have no choice, they
>> are going to "help" me regardless of how I feel about it.
>
> You can leave the country. You want to be in the country club but you
> don't want to pay the fees.
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: Simon S Aysdie
Date: Jul 6, 2007 12:36

On Jul 5, 6:48 pm, MooseFET rahul.net> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 3:54 pm, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net>
> wrote:
>> What is this "access to the green" stuff you keep chanting?
>
> Do you want a contract to be valid and enforced. Do you want police?

He doesn't want *your* police.
> You get the courts enforcing contracts
> etc.

You mean he gets *your* police and courts.

He's saying he does not need a guvmint for these things, and he is
correct. Protection and courts would be available on the open market
if the guvmint did not claim a coercive monopoly on them by violent
force.

http://www.amazon.com/Enterprise-Law-Justice-Without-State/dp/0936488301/

http://www.amazon.com/Myth-National-Defense-Hans-Hermann-Hoppe/dp/0945466374/

You are a statist.
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Re: Heartburn of the Day         


Author: James Arthur
Date: Jul 6, 2007 13:54

On Jul 5, 5:23 am, MooseFET rahul.net> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 5:56 pm, Bob Quintal wrote:
>
>
>
>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote innews:pan.2007.07.03.22.17.33.503120@example.net:
>
>>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:58:44 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:
>>>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian example.net> wrote in
>>>>> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:42:29 +0000, Bob Quintal wrote:
>
>>>>>> Hillary is right.
>
>>>>> No, she's in favor of socialist medicine, which is based on
>>>>> theft, and therefore wrong.
>
>>>> Public service medicine is based on theft????
>
>>> Yes - it's paid for by taxes, which are extracted from your
>>> paycheck, by force if they need to, whether you want to pay ...
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