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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Canuck57
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:31

"anon" privacy.net> wrote in message news:jvvHj.782$lV1.215@trndny06...
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> "Canuck57" unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>> "Andy F." tesco.net> wrote in message
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>>> I think a better idea would be to have NO lender of last resort.The last
>>> resort should be bankruptcy, just like in any other business.
>>
>> Insightful.
>>
>> If they just let that happen, the problem would have solved itself in 6
>> months.
>>
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> the last time they let the problem get so big and then "sort itself out",
> it took more than a decade and a world war to reset the animal spirits.
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Roy Batty
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:36

Les Cargill cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 10:04 am, "John Galt" bluebottle.com> wrote:
>>> "ajames54" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> news:d4f60149-e4a2-4e78-877b-09aab679ebbe@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
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>>>> On Mar 28, 3:34 pm, Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 28, 12:28 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> what i find hilarious, outside of a couple of complete libertarian
>>>>> cranks, where have all of the defenders of laissez-faire gone?
>>>>> where is their outrage, why are they not publicly, and proudly
>>>>> announcing their adherence to libertarian dogma, and renouncing their
>>>>> investments in the markets.
>>>>> after all, they to are the indirect beneficiaries of the bailouts.
>>>>> you would think that they would be fleeing the markets, whilst ...
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: forbisgaryg
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:40

On Mar 29, 10:53 am, "anon" privacy.net> wrote:
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>>> "Econotron" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> I may offer an alternative here.
>>>> 1. The market sets interest rate.
>>>> 2. No reserve requirements. Deposit insurance is voluntary.
>>>> 3. No oversight (well, may be very limited). ...
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Canuck57
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:40

"Les Cargill" cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Canuck57 wrote:
>> "anon" privacy.net> wrote in message
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>> If the market is right, and most often is, gold going from $330 an ounce
>> to $1000 means $1 last year will have 33 cents purchasing power not too
>> far into the future.
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>> Look at it as the cost of gold and oil is constant, and it is the
>> currency that is fluxuating in depreciation due to dilution. Add that
>> this causes a rift in the economy, people lose homes and jobs until it is
>> fixed. It is the little people who get screwed the most.
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> Oil and gold are in bubbles. Nothing's fundamentally changed since about
> 1998 - we have too much cash chasing too little stuff - at least
> from the point of view of the marketplace.
> ...
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Econotron
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:44

"Jerry Kraus" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 29, 12:16 pm, Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> On Mar 29, 4:04 am, Roy Batty gmail.com> wrote:
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>> tcq.net> wrote:
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>>> you are correct.
>>> here is a little peice i made up explaining conservative/libertarian
>>> lunacy.
>>> "libertarians/conservatives are the only group of people i know that
>>> are constantly outraged at the results of their own polices, then they
>>> blame government(the blaming government part was added by another
>>> fellow, of course he is very smart.)."
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>> Libertarians tend to think that they are "free thinkers"
>
> but everyone of them speaks of living libertarian ideals. i ask them
> if they live by someone else's rules, then they are not free. i ask
> them who enforces their rules in a free market. they say the market. ...
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Roy Batty
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:46

Les Cargill cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Real quality, both in health care and in education seems to elude us.
> Maybe the Canadian/British model is as good as it gets. Maybe the
> not-for-profit sector has a role. I don't know.
>
Health care is what greases the wheels.

Canadians are very critical about our health care, compared to the USA, ours
is under a microscope.

Nobody here says it's the best, everyone agrees that there is room for
improvement.

Meanwhile, there seems to be a lobby in the USA that is against reform.

None of my business. But I am pleased that it's an issue in the USA these
days. Healh care has been a major election issue in Canada for at least 3
elections. We like what we have, but there is a great need to make it
better.
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: John Galt
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:49

"anon" privacy.net> wrote in message news:jvvHj.782$lV1.215@trndny06...
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> "Canuck57" unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>> "Andy F." tesco.net> wrote in message
>> news:656ugbF2emh15U1@mid.individual.net...
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>>> I think a better idea would be to have NO lender of last resort.The last
>>> resort should be bankruptcy, just like in any other business.
>>
>> Insightful.
>>
>> If they just let that happen, the problem would have solved itself in 6
>> months.
>>
>
> the last time they let the problem get so big and then "sort itself out",
> it took more than a decade and a world war to reset the animal spirits.
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Roy Batty
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:55

Econotron hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Jerry Kraus" yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:743f2d1b-d299-43ed-8aa2-e13a18744bcc@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 29, 12:16 pm, Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 4:04 am, Roy Batty gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> tcq.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> you are correct.
>>>> here is a little peice i made up explaining conservative/libertarian
>>>> lunacy.
>>>> "libertarians/conservatives are the only group of people i know that
>>>> are constantly outraged at the results of their own polices, then they
>>>> blame government(the blaming government part was added by another
>>>> fellow, of course he is very smart.)."
>>
>>> Libertarians tend to think that they are "free thinkers"
>>
>> but everyone of them speaks of living libertarian ideals. i ask them
>> if they live by someone else's rules, then they are not free. i ask ...
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Canuck57
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:57

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>>> "Econotron" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> I may offer an alternative here.
>>>> 1. The market sets interest rate.
>>>> 2. No reserve requirements. Deposit insurance is voluntary.
>>>> 3. No oversight (well, may be very limited).
>>>> 4. No lender of last resort (bankruptcy, as Andy pointed out).
>>>> 5. Fed chairman can lecture, but should be required to wear an orange
>>>> suit.
>>>> e
>>> ...
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Re: Financial Sector self-destructing         


Author: Canuck57
Date: Mar 29, 2008 11:59

tcq.net> wrote in message
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> On Mar 29, 8:49 am, "Econotron" hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "anon" privacy.net> wrote in
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>>> "Econotron" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Fed knows that there would be no rerun of 1929, for the reasons
>>>> explained
>>>> here and elsewhere.
>>
>>> The problem is the current Fed chairman. He has spent his life studying
>>> how to prevent the 1930s. And he wants to use his solution regardless
>>> whether the problem is similar. He sees deflation behind every corner.
>>> He
>>> has a solution (helicopters) looking for a problem.
>>
>>> The way the paper based money works, a government can always engineer ...
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