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Author: Video61Video61 Date: Feb 11, 2008 19:37
On Feb 11, 8:20 pm, "Marcello" nospam.com> wrote:
>> no, what we have is a private sector that in almost all area's can
>> create money out of thin air. general electric does it. the
>> unregulated, outside of the government banking, and federal reserve
>> banking regulations mortgage brokers did it, big time. the stock
>> market does it, car loan companies do it. so our government allows any
>> looney tune in the private sector can issue credit, which equals
>> money.
>
> Unregulated? Are you kidding? The government does not permit competing
> currencies, how is that not regulated? In fact, this is perhaps the vest
> example of the OPPOSITE of Laizzes-faire economics.
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Author: MarcelloMarcello Date: Feb 11, 2008 22:23
> On Feb 11, 8:20 pm, "Marcello" nospam.com> wrote:
>>> no, what we have is a private sector that in almost all area's can
>>> create money out of thin air. general electric does it. the
>>> unregulated, outside of the government banking, and federal reserve
>>> banking regulations mortgage brokers did it, big time. the stock
>>> market does it, car loan companies do it. so our government allows any
>>> looney tune in the private sector can issue credit, which equals
>>> money.
>>
>> Unregulated? Are you kidding? The government does not permit competing
>> currencies, how is that not regulated? In fact, this is perhaps the vest
>> example of the OPPOSITE of Laizzes-faire economics. ...
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Author: Jeffrey TurnerJeffrey Turner Date: Feb 12, 2008 05:47
Marcello wrote:
> tcq.net> wrote:
>
>
>>no, what we have is a private sector that in almost all area's can
>>create money out of thin air. general electric does it. the
>>unregulated, outside of the government banking, and federal reserve
>>banking regulations mortgage brokers did it, big time. the stock
>>market does it, car loan companies do it. so our government allows any
>>looney tune in the private sector can issue credit, which equals
>>money.
>
>
> Unregulated? Are you kidding? The government does not permit competing
> currencies, how is that not regulated? In fact, this is perhaps the vest
> example of the OPPOSITE of Laizzes-faire economics.
I could have sworn I just saw a story about stores in New York taking
euros. More jibbering Libertoonian nonsense mercifully snipped.
--Jeff
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Author: Jeffrey TurnerJeffrey Turner Date: Feb 12, 2008 06:33
Marcello wrote:
> "Jeffrey Turner" localnet.com> wrote:
>>Marcello wrote:
>>>"Jeffrey Turner" localnet.com> wrote:
>>>>Marcello wrote:
>>>>>yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Feb 9, 11:15 pm, Michael Price yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So when we discuss "government," we need to recognize what kind of
>>>>>>>>government we are talking about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The kind that looks after itself and then gets guys like you to
>>>>>>>blame others when it goes wrong. In other words the usual kind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's the libertarians that got it wrong. If the libertarians have
>>>>>>their way and get rid of the government (non-elitist type), what
>>>>>
>>>>>You seem to be under the false assumption that Libertarians wanting
>>>>>small limited government equates to not wanting a judicial system. Al ...
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Author: MarcelloMarcello Date: Feb 12, 2008 19:07
"Jeffrey Turner" localnet.com> wrote in message
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> Marcello wrote:
>> "Jeffrey Turner" localnet.com> wrote:
>>>Marcello wrote:
>>>>"Jeffrey Turner" localnet.com> wrote:
>>>>>Marcello wrote:
>>>>>>yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Feb 9, 11:15 pm, Michael Price yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So when we discuss "government," we need to recognize what kind of
>>>>>>>>>government we are talking about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The kind that looks after itself and then gets guys like you to
>>>>>>>>blame others when it goes wrong. In other words the usual kind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's the libertarians that got it wrong. If the libertarians have
>>>>>>>their way and get rid of the government (non-elitist type), what
>>>>>> ...
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Author: MarcelloMarcello Date: Feb 12, 2008 19:15
"Jeffrey Turner" localnet.com> wrote in message
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> Marcello wrote:
>> tcq.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>no, what we have is a private sector that in almost all area's can
>>>create money out of thin air. general electric does it. the
>>>unregulated, outside of the government banking, and federal reserve
>>>banking regulations mortgage brokers did it, big time. the stock
>>>market does it, car loan companies do it. so our government allows any
>>>looney tune in the private sector can issue credit, which equals
>>>money.
>>
>>
>> Unregulated? Are you kidding? The government does not permit competing
>> currencies, how is that not regulated? In fact, this is perhaps the vest
>> example of the OPPOSITE of Laizzes-faire economics.
>
> I could have sworn I just saw a story about stores in New York taking ...
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Author: Video61Video61 Date: Feb 12, 2008 20:28
On Feb 12, 7:47 am, Jeffrey Turner localnet.com> wrote:
> Marcello wrote:
>> tcq.net> wrote:
>
>>>no, what we have is a private sector that in almost all area's can
>>>create money out of thin air. general electric does it. the
>>>unregulated, outside of the government banking, and federal reserve
>>>banking regulations mortgage brokers did it, big time. the stock
>>>market does it, car loan companies do it. so our government allows any
>>>looney tune in the private sector can issue credit, which equals
>>>money.
>
>> Unregulated? Are you kidding? The government does not permit competing
>> currencies, how is that not regulated? In fact, this is perhaps the vest
>> example of the OPPOSITE of Laizzes-faire economics.
>
> I could have sworn I just saw a story about...
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Author: MarcelloMarcello Date: Feb 12, 2008 21:37
> On Feb 12, 7:47 am, Jeffrey Turner localnet.com> wrote:
>> Marcello wrote:
>>> tcq.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>no, what we have is a private sector that in almost all area's can
>>>>create money out of thin air. general electric does it. the
>>>>unregulated, outside of the government banking, and federal reserve
>>>>banking regulations mortgage brokers did it, big time. the stock
>>>>market does it, car loan companies do it. so our government allows any
>>>>looney tune in the private sector can issue credit, which equals
>>>>money.
>>
>>> Unregulated? Are you kidding? The government does not permit
>>> competing
>>> currencies, how is that not regulated? In fact, this is perhaps the
>>> vest
>>> example of the OPPOSITE of Laizzes-faire economics.
>> ...
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Author: kikivan6kikivan6 Date: Feb 13, 2008 02:12
On Feb 11, 6:08 pm, "Marcello" nospam.com> wrote:
>> A few hundred years ago when the total GDP was $1 million dollars, the
>> wealth was distributed according to the $1 million dollars overall
>> value. A King might get $1000 dollars in today's value. A today's poor
>> may get $2000 dollars (thus "The poor today live better lives than
>> kings from only a few hundred years ago"), but that has nothing to
>> justify the king's claim that he was entitled to all the $1 million
>> dollars a few hundred years ago. Because if he did, everybody else
>> will be starved to death. Thus the entitlement at time X is evaluated
>> based on the overall wealth at time X, not X-500 or X+500. You kept
>> committing all kinds of time frame fallacies.
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> This is entirely based on your assumption...
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Author: Jeffrey TurnerJeffrey Turner Date: Feb 13, 2008 05:11
Marcello wrote:
> "Jeffrey Turner" localnet.com> wrote:
>>Marcello wrote:
>>>tcq.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>no, what we have is a private sector that in almost all area's can
>>>>create money out of thin air. general electric does it. the
>>>>unregulated, outside of the government banking, and federal reserve
>>>>banking regulations mortgage brokers did it, big time. the stock
>>>>market does it, car loan companies do it. so our government allows any
>>>>looney tune in the private sector can issue credit, which equals
>>>>money.
>>>
>>>Unregulated? Are you kidding? The government does not permit competing
>>>currencies, how is that not regulated? In fact, this is perhaps the vest
>>>example of the OPPOSITE of Laizzes-faire economics.
>>
>>I could have sworn I just saw a story about stores in New York taking
>>euros. More jibbering Libertoonian nonsense mercifully snipped. ...
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