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Author: Robert BunnRobert Bunn Date: Oct 20, 2006 20:17
Your newsreader doesn't demarcate or attribute quoted material very
well. It makes your posts difficult to follow.
tcq.net> wrote in message
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> How much of that is from people in desperation starting their own
> small
> businesses because they can't find jobs? How many of those businesses
> last one year? Three? five?
>
> (that is always the case no matter what kind of economy we are in.
> people try their hand at entrepreneurial skills even if they are
> employed in a good job.
> your statement is a red herring, and america has always churned out
> new business's in good times, as well as in bad times. besides, you
> did
> not read the small print, they said small business activity actually
> increased, which is a good thing.)
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Author: ccrccr Date: Oct 20, 2006 20:24
"Nospam" example.com> wrote in message
news:61129489.BB6S2um2lH@example.com...> MP wrote:
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>>> So you believe that they can squeeze more even now and they don't due to
>>> their charitable souls ?
>>
>> Not due to their charitable souls, but because squeezing has its own
>> costs to employers (monetary and otherwise). Glad I could clear that up
>> for you.
>
> And is there any particular reason to believe that this costs will just
> vanish away by a miracle if the minimum wage is increased ? :-)
I guarantee "MP" will miss the point of your question. He's not the
brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
--
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of
fighting a foreign enemy." James Madison
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Author: Video61Video61 Date: Oct 20, 2006 20:47
> the employer will always
> downplay any skilled job no matter what level of education, grunt,
> sweat, or whatever it takes to do the job because there are no real
> market driven mechanisms that allow labor to have any leverage at all
> except in rare instants.
That's silly. Labor has the same leverage employers do: refusing to
enter into an employment contract they find unsatisfactory.
(of course you are kidding correct? if not, how old are you, and what
kind of life experiences have you had? i question your maturity.)
> so there is almost always a labor glut at all times
Also silly. If your premises were true, the expected outcome would be
full employment at lower wages.
(not true. we only have the wage we have because of government
standards.
without standards, the employer would simply work you till death at
slave wages, then replace you with the many starving mass's.
again i question your maturity.)
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Author: Video61Video61 Date: Oct 20, 2006 21:40
Your newsreader doesn't demarcate or attribute quoted material very
well. It makes your posts difficult to follow.
(it works fine for me, and i like it this way.)
tcq.net> wrote in message
news:1161319102.902840.325320@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> How much of that is from people in desperation starting their own
> small
> businesses because they can't find jobs? How many of those businesses
> last one year? Three? five?
> (that is always the case no matter what kind of economy we are in.
> people try their hand at entrepreneurial skills even if they are
> employed in a good job.
> your statement is a red herring, and america has always churned out
> new business's in good times, as well as in bad times. besides, you
> did
> not read the small print, they said small business activity actually
> increased, which is a good thing.)
They said small business activity increased. This is an empirical
observation.
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Author: NospamNospam Date: Oct 21, 2006 06:08
> Your newsreader doesn't demarcate or attribute quoted material very
> well. It makes your posts difficult to follow.
>
> (it works fine for me, and i like it this way.)
Well, actually here "the Bunn" is right.
There are some quotation standards everybody expects. And it is usefull to
use the quotation most people expect, in order to make your idea easily
understood. If no, many will just skip without reading what you have to
say. And isn't it bad for some potential vary valuable idea to get lost
because of ... quotation ?
The second thought. The attitude:
"(it works fine for me, and i like it this way.)"
it is rather a libertarian attitude. Do you really want to be associated
with this kind of "human Ferengi" ?
What people expects is to quote starting with a > at the beginning of each
quoted line, and the subject line to be a nice summary of up to 15 words,
or anyhow, never ever to exceed 25 words.
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Author: Peter Bjørn PerlsøPeter Bjørn Perlsø Date: Oct 21, 2006 07:25
> "Nospam" example.com> wrote in message
> news:61129489.BB6S2um2lH@example.com...>> MP wrote:
>>
>>>> So you believe that they can squeeze more even now and they don't due to
>>>> their charitable souls ?
>>>
>>> Not due to their charitable souls, but because squeezing has its own
>>> costs to employers (monetary and otherwise). Glad I could clear that up
>>> for you.
>>
>> And is there any particular reason to believe that this costs will just
>> vanish away by a miracle if the minimum wage is increased ? :-)
>
> I guarantee "MP" will miss the point of your question. He's not the
> brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
Well, he's certainly a lot brighter than a dumbfuck like you who thinks
thar arguments can be freely exchanged for profanity and ad hominems.
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Author: Peter Bjørn PerlsøPeter Bjørn Perlsø Date: Oct 21, 2006 07:25
> ok, i will bite. gross ignorance on how a modern economy works is
> simply outrageous in todays world.
Glad you admit you defeciencies in that area.
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Author: Peter Bjørn PerlsøPeter Bjørn Perlsø Date: Oct 21, 2006 07:25
Robert Bunn twcny.rr.com> wrote:
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>> That study was widely criticized by other economists for too short a
>> time frame and too narrow a sample. Results in California, on the
>> other
>> hand, showed real harm directly attributable to that minimum wage
>> hike.
>>
>> (that is another myth. it was not only proven once to be right, but it
>> was rechecked again, and found to be right. your study was done by a
>> free market type ideologue who lie, and distort, and would not know
>> the
>> truth if it bite him.
>
> So ... people who like free markets are liars, ideologues, and
> all-around bad guys? What do you suggest, that we switch to a
> regulated-economy communist system?
Maybe not outright communist, but reading enough of Video61's drivel
will convey the knowledge to you that he is a staunch socialist.
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Author: Peter Bjørn PerlsøPeter Bjørn Perlsø Date: Oct 21, 2006 07:25
Robert Bunn twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>> MYTH #5: Raising the minimum wage will hurt small businesses.
>>
>> Wrong, again. A recent Gallup Poll revealed that 86 percent of small
>> business owners do not believe that an increase in the...
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