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Author: JSH
Date: Feb 25, 2008 20:58

Oddly enough to me the most fascinating find from surrogate factoring
which has created the means to end the impasse is a remarkably simple
result that follows from a relatively simple equation:

x^2 = y^2 + nT - (1 + α^2)(k_0^2 + 2pjk_0 + p^2*j^2) - (k_0 + pj)pr_2

That is the equation that comes from letting 2αx = k + pr_2, and z = x
+ αk, when

z^2 = y^2 + nT

and considering k = k_0 + pj, to see how

nT - (1 + α^2)(k_0^2 + 2pjk_0 + p^2*j^2)

behaves as you increment or decrement k with j.

So actually I just kind of expanded out the traditional difference of
squares.

Um, that's what they call thinking out of the box.

And you have trivially that as j increments OR decrements, r_2 will
tend to be negative to compensate, so

nT - (1 + α^2)(k_0^2 + 2pjk_0 + p^2*j^2)

will have a minima and change around that value as j increases which
is just an incredibly powerful result as it allows you to to get an
idea of the value of z.
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: amzoti
Date: Feb 25, 2008 21:24

On Feb 25, 8:58 pm, JSH gmail.com> wrote:
> Oddly enough to me the most fascinating find from surrogate factoring
> which has created the means to end the impasse is a remarkably simple
> result that follows from a relatively simple equation:
>
> x^2 = y^2 + nT - (1 + á^2)(k_0^2 + 2pjk_0 + p^2*j^2) - (k_0 + pj)pr_2
>
> That is the equation that comes from letting 2áx = k + pr_2, and z = x
> + ák, when
>
> z^2 = y^2 + nT
>
> and considering k = k_0 + pj, to see how
>
> nT - (1 + á^2)(k_0^2 + 2pjk_0 + p^2*j^2)
>
> behaves as you increment or decrement k with j.
>
> So actually I just kind of expanded out the traditional difference of
> squares. ...
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: Fredrico Juarrez
Date: Feb 25, 2008 22:13

JSH wrote:

[...]
> My place in history is secure even though I know a lot more than most
> of you clearly know so I also know that there may not be much history
> left! Not human history at least.
>
> But not understanding...
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: David C. Ullrich
Date: Feb 26, 2008 06:55

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:58:43 -0800 (PST), JSH gmail.com>
wrote:

You keep forgetting: If you don't want people to think you're crazy
and say you're crazy then don't say things that make you sound
crazy. Like the fact that people say you're wrong about everything
means the race is doomed to oblivion. That's a really really
wacky thing to say - the fact that you keep saying it doesn't
make it sound any less wacky, honest;
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: doug
Date: Feb 26, 2008 11:27

"JSH" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7e20e8b7-1c62-4940-a45d-3aaedc225942@62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>Oddly enough to me the most fascinating find from surrogate factoring
>which has created the means to end the impasse is a remarkably simple
>result that follows from a relatively simple equation:
>x^2 = y^2 + nT - (1 +
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Date: Feb 26, 2008 14:32

doug wrote:
> You reep what you sow

I think you meant

You rip what you sew.

Or not.

;-þ
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: amzoti
Date: Feb 26, 2008 14:42

On Feb 26, 2:32 pm, Noob wrote:
> doug wrote:
>> You reep what you sow
>
> I think you meant
>
> You rip what you sew.
>
> Or not.
>
> ;-þ
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: Vend
Date: Feb 26, 2008 17:09

On 26 Feb, 07:13, Fredrico Juarrez midtown.con> wrote:
> JSH wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>
>
>> My place in history is secure even though I know a lot more than most
>> of you clearly know so I also know that there may not be much history
>> left! Not human history at least.
>
>> But not understanding is what this situation is all about, as some
>> people didn't understand that lying about math would invite the
>> retribution of the math because they didn't believe in mathematics
>> itself.
>
>> The poor field was overrun by people who hate math but found a way to
>> work the system by lying. That's all. Nothing more.
>
>> But without advancement in mathematics, humanity has no future, so the ...
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: JSH
Date: Feb 26, 2008 17:32

On Feb 26, 5:09 pm, Vend wrote:
> On 26 Feb, 07:13, Fredrico Juarrez midtown.con> wrote:
>
>
>
>> JSH wrote:
>
>> [...]
>
>>> My place in history is secure even though I know a lot more than most
>>> of you clearly know so I also know that there may not be much history
>>> left! Not human history at least.
>
>>> But not understanding is what this situation is all about, as some
>>> people didn't understand that lying about math would invite the
>>> retribution of the math because they didn't believe in mathematics
>>> itself.
>
>>> The poor field was overrun by people who hate math but found a way to
>>> work the system by lying. That's all. Nothing more. ...
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Re: JSH: In the neighborhood         


Author: doug
Date: Feb 26, 2008 18:29

"JSH" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:00be6670-2e20-4640-b6dd-065bcc415f4c@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 26, 5:09 pm, Vend wrote:
>> On 26 Feb, 07:13, Fredrico Juarrez midtown.con> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> JSH wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>
>>>> My place in history is secure even though I know a lot more than most
>>>> of you clearly know so I also know that there may not be much history
>>>> left! Not human history at least.
>>
>>>> But not understanding is what this situation is all about, as some
>>>> people didn't understand that lying about math would invite the
>>>> retribution of the math because they didn't believe in mathematics
>>>> itself.
>> ...
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