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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Giacomo Catenazzi
Date: Aug 4, 2008 14:00

... direction: actually the priority is on relevant teams and not to developers, so DDs should check is few places new rules. But this means also that teams doesn't coordinate and we have different and confusing terminologies. ciao cate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Robert Millan
Date: Aug 4, 2008 12:50

... Robert Millan wrote: Lenny is Debian. non-free is not part of Debian. Check the Social Contract. I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. You are a GNU (co-)maintainer -- at least you have a gnu.org account and I know you've been doing significant work (at least) on GNU ...
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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Giacomo Catenazzi
Date: Aug 4, 2008 12:30

..." sometime is named "segment" or "area" or "component") so we have an additional definition for distribution and for Debian. There are so many overloaded terms in Debian. So I agree that it is confusing. How to address? It is simple! Ask to the relevant people. The original case was about "lenny" release/installation. So ask to RM or d-i what lenny means on these groups (teams or ...
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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Robert Millan
Date: Aug 4, 2008 12:30

... at all. In fact, I always thought this was self-evident. Is there really something to be worried over here? Well, I really don't know. My concern right now is that there's a widespread confusion, but I have no idea where it originates or what we can do to correct it. Giacomo pointed at some possible places, so that's what we have. One of them is dak layout. I'm not particularly ...
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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Robert Millan
Date: Aug 4, 2008 12:20

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 09:51:42AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: Before this thread goes much further, examine the context, please. Read the whole thing and then tell me I am confused: Hi Ben, Just to make it clear, please don't take it as if I were recriminating something to you. My understanding is that this problem is about general perception and I don't think it's your fault ...
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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Date: Aug 4, 2008 06:30

... Eee models as well, Hi Ben Lenny is Debian. non-free is not part of Debian. Check the Social Contract. I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. What is this to blame? Would it be the FTP archive layout? Perhaps having an unified BTS? There are some problem with terms/words: they ...
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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Ben Armstrong
Date: Aug 3, 2008 06:00

...<rmh@aybabtu.com> wrote: I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. What is this to blame? Would... much further, examine the context, please. Read the whole thing and then tell me I am confused: Earliest Eee models fully supported in Lenny Lenny will release with the atl2 ethernet driver and the non...
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confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Robert Millan
Date: Aug 3, 2008 05:30

... earliest Eee models as well, Hi Ben Lenny is Debian. non-free is not part of Debian. Check the Social Contract. I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. What is this to blame? Would it be the FTP archive layout? Perhaps having an unified BTS? I'd be very interested in finding an answer to ...
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Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)     

Author: Ben Armstrong
Date: Aug 3, 2008 05:30

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:17:46 +0200 Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com> wrote: I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. What is this to blame? Would it be the FTP archive layout? Perhaps having an unified BTS? I'd be very interested in finding an answer to that question, and proposing a reform if...
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Re: 32 bit FORTH ??? Different tack!     

Author: Charles Davis
Date: Jul 20, 2008 21:45

... will 'default' to the 640X480 any time there is confusion or uncertainty as to what the output should be. ... I) My presently available Forth experience, was on 8/16 bit CPUs, I need to become familiar with how Forth has progressed to handle 16/32bit systems, and 32/64 bit systems and even 128 bit systems if they have been attacked already. If you're looking for a larger ...
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