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Author: Markus.Dichtl.nospamMarkus.Dichtl.nospam
Date: Nov 21, 2006 23:20
Kristian Gjøsteen wrote:
> David Wagner taverner.cs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>Kristian Gjøsteen wrote:
>>>>And since I argue that IACR, if it has published a wrong paper, a moral
>>>>obligation to publish as well a paper, which corrects the wrong one, I
>>>>had to indicate which was the wrong one.
>>>
>>>Nah. The program committee has an obligation to produce a worthwhile
>>>scientific program for the conference. Accepting papers that point out
>>>that previous program committees made mistakes may run counter to that
>>>obligation (eg. if the mistakes aren't sufficiently interesting).
>>
>>I'm with Markus here -- especially for FSE. I do think the committee
>>has, or should have, a rough obligation to publish correct, novel, and
>>well-written breaks of papers that were accepted at the same conference
>>the prior year. How else will we, as a field, correct and learn from
>>our mistakes?
>
> Suppose I write a correct, well-written one-page note saying that Thm 2 ...
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Author: David EatherDavid Eather
Date: Nov 21, 2006 19:32
fermineutron wrote:
> Peter van Liesdonk wrote:
>
>> There is no such concept as a password. If there would be a password as
>> you propose, then it would be all the info required to encrypt/decrypt,
>> and thus be the key. A brute force attack would just try any likely
>> password.
>
> Let me explain what i ment by password and why i propose to use it:
> What ever user enters either by keyboard or stored in a particular file
> is a password. This can be a short sting. For examnple let is be 64
> bits long. Now the Encryption/Decryption key is 2048 or more bits long
> and deterministic translation of the password to a key is a time
> consuming process. It is time consuming not because of a poor algorythm
> but because the mathematical model connecting the two is difficult,
> like large matrix inversion or simmilar. The purpose of doing this is
> to give attacker 2 brute force routs to take:
> 1) Bruteforsing the password
> 2) Bruteforcing the key
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Author: Jim TiberioJim Tiberio
Date: Nov 21, 2006 19:23
>> This is SPAM
>
> Yes, but for a good social cause
>
Perhaps but "morning wood"?
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Author: Herman RubinHerman Rubin
Date: Nov 21, 2006 19:07
In article dispatch.concentric.net>,
Mike Amling allspam.com> wrote:
>Aidan Kehoe wrote:
>> Ar an chad l is fiche de m na Samhain, scrobh frisbieinstein@ yahoo.com:
>>> I thought the reason Navajo was so secure was that it used sounds
>>> completely unfamiliar to the German ear. So it was not possible for
>>> them to transliterate it.
>> Also relevant, and probably more so, was that its usage in the European
>> theatre of operations was minimal; its formal use was mainly in the Pacific.
> Yes, they chose a dialect that had never been studied by Japanese
>anthropologists.
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Author: StratocasterStratocaster
Date: Nov 21, 2006 16:11
Carlos Moreno wrote:
> Tom St Denis wrote:
>> Stratocaster wrote:
>>
>>>Absolutely.Another issue that is relevant is spending millions for your
>>>security and allowing your information that is sensitive to be accessed
>>>from any point other than a direct pipe.Happens all the time.Stupid.I
>>>recommend to clients that if you have sensitive information, boil it
>>>down to absolutes, and keep it on paper in a safe, and make people
>>>initial it when signing it out-like the CIA does.Too much work?Then you
>>>arent serious about security, or your spending is out of line with the
>>>secrets you want to keep.
>>
>>
>> That sounds all l33t and all, except how do I order stuff off amazon
>> with a credit card in a safe?
>
> Credit cards are far from having/being sensitive information --- at
> least for the definition of sensitive that the previous message
> suggests. ...
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Author: David WagnerDavid Wagner
Date: Nov 21, 2006 12:52
Alan wrote:
>Don't overlook the scenario where a third party is trying to protect
>secrets on your machine...
You are right, I forgot about DRM.
I will let companies relying upon DRM worry about this for themselves.
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Author: Greg RoseGreg Rose
Date: Nov 21, 2006 12:46
>Tom St Denis wrote:
>> The attack is not that you run your security on other machines, rather
>> that people can run code on YOUR machine.
>
>There are other scenarios. Sometimes a third party is trying to
>protect secrets on your machine (think DRM).
I would argue that if the machine thinks you
are the enemy, it really isn't *your* machine any
more.
Greg.
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Author: AlanAlan
Date: Nov 21, 2006 12:43
David Wagner wrote:
> In practice, with today's commodity operating systems, if an attacker can
> run code of his choice on your machine, I tend to think you're probably
> screwed anyway.
Don't overlook the scenario where a third party is trying to protect
secrets on your machine... or where you are that third party trying to
protect secrets on someone else's machine. Your conclusion probably
holds anyway...but that will not keep people from trying to protect
such secrets. And therefore the continuing advance of these attacks is
relevant. We either need to improve the vulnerable implementations or
advise people of the increased threat.
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