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	<title><![CDATA[Call For Papers:  WORLDCOMP'07:  conferences in computer science &amp; computer engineering, USA]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br>                   Call for Papers<br><br>     The 2007 World Congress in Computer Science,<br>     Computer Engineering, and Applied Computing<br>                    WORLDCOMP'07<br>         (composed of 24 Joint Conferences)<br>          June 25-28, 2007, Las Vegas, USA<br><br>Dear Colleagues:<br><br>You are invited to submit a draft/full paper.  All accepted papers will<br><br>be published in the respective conference proceedings.  The academic<br>co-sponsors of WORLDCOMP'07 include: MIT Media Lab, MIT; Harvard<br>University's Statistical Genomics and Computational Biology Lab; Texas<br>Advanced Computing Center, The University of Texas at Austin;<br>Statistical<br>and Computational Intelligence Lab of Purdue University; University of<br>Iowa's Medical Imaging HPC Lab., and Institute for Informatics Problems<br>of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow, Russia.  A more complete<br>list of sponsors can be found below.<br><br>The 2007 World Congress in Computer Science, Computer Engineering,<br>and Applied Computing (WORLDCOMP'07) is composed of the following<br>24 conferences (all will be held simultaneously, same location<br>and dates: June 25-28, 2007, USA).<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Parallel and Distributed<br>  Processing Techniques and Applications (PDPTA'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Grid Computing and<br>  Applications (GCA'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Computer Design (CDES'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Scientific Computing (CSC'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Artificial Intelligence<br>  (ICAI'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Genetic and Evolutionary<br>  Methods (GEM'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Bioinformatics and<br>  Computational Biology (BIOCOMP'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Software Engineering Research<br>  and Practice (SERP'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Wireless Networks (ICWN'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Image Processing, Computer<br>  Vision, and Pattern Recognition (IPCV'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Modeling, Simulation and<br>  Visualization Methods (MSV'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Computer Graphics and Virtual<br>  Reality (CGVR'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Multimedia Systems and<br>  Applications (MSA'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Internet Computing (ICOMP'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Semantic Web and Web Services<br>  (SWWS'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Security and Management (SAM'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Data Mining (DMIN'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Information and Knowledge<br>  Engineering (IKE'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on e-Learning, e-Business,<br>  Enterprise Information Systems, and e-Government (EEE'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Embedded Systems and<br>  Applications (ESA'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Frontiers in Education: Computer<br>  Science and Computer Engineering (FECS'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Foundations of Computer<br>  Science (FCS'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Engineering of Reconfigurable<br>  Systems and Algorithms (ERSA'07)<br><br>o The 2007 International Conference on Communications in Computing<br>  (CIC'7)<br><br>(a link to each conference's URL can be found at<br><a href="http://www.worldacademyofscience.org/worldcomp07" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.worldacademyofscience.org/worldcomp07</a>)<br><br>General Chair:<br><br>   H. R. Arabnia, PhD<br>   Professor, Computer Science<br>   Editor-in-Chief, The Journal of Supercomputing (Springer)<br>   The University of Georgia<br>   Department of Computer Science<br>   415 Graduate Studies Research Center<br>   Athens, Georgia 30602-7404, USA<br>   email: hra@<a href="http://cs.uga.edu" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">cs.uga.edu</a><br><br>Purpose / History:<br><br>   This set of joint conferences is the largest annual gathering of<br>   researchers in computer science, computer engineering and applied<br>   computing.  Many of the 24 joint conferences in WORLDCOMP are the<br>   premier conferences for presentation of advances in their respective<br>   fields.  Most of these conferences have been evaluated and<br>determined<br>   to be top tier research conferences<br>   (see <a href="http://www.cs-conference-ranking.org/index.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.cs-conference-ranking.org/index.html</a> for an<br>example).<br>   We anticipate to have 2000 or more attendees from over 75 countries<br>   participating in the 2007 joint conferences.<br><br>   The motivation is to assemble a spectrum of affiliated research<br>   conferences into a coordinated research meeting held in a common<br>   place at a common time.  The main goal is to provide a forum for<br>   exchange of ideas in a number of research areas that interact.  The<br>   model used to form these annual conferences facilitates<br>communication<br>   among researchers from all over the world in different fields of<br>   computer science, computer engineering and applied computing.  Both<br>   inward research (core areas of computer science and engineering) and<br>   outward research (multi-disciplinary, inter-disciplinary, and<br>   applications) will be covered during the conferences.<br><br>Submission of Papers:<br><br>   Prospective authors are invited to submit their draft/full paper<br>   (about 5 to 8 pages - single space, font size of 10 to 12) to<br>   H. R. Arabnia by Feb. 20, 2007. E-mail submissions in MS document or<br>   PDF formats are preferable (Fax or postal submissions are also<br>fine.)<br>   All reasonable typesetting formats are acceptable (later, the<br>authors<br>   of accepted papers will be asked to follow a particular typesetting<br>   format to prepare their papers for publication.)<br><br>   The length of the Camera-Ready papers (if accepted) will be limited<br>to<br>   7 (IEEE style) pages.  Papers must not have been previously<br>published<br>   or currently submitted for publication elsewhere.  The first page of<br>   the draft paper should include: title of the paper, name,<br>affiliation,<br>   postal address, email address, and telephone number for each author.<br>   The first page should also identify the name of the author who will<br>   be presenting the paper (if accepted) and a maximum of 5 topical<br>   keywords that would best represent the content of the paper.<br>Finally,<br>   the name of the conference that the paper is being submitted to must<br>be<br>   stated on the first page.<br><br>   Papers will be evaluated for originality, significance, clarity,<br>impact,<br>   and soundness.  Each paper will be refereed by two experts in the<br>field<br>   who are independent of the conference program committee.  The<br>referees'<br>   evaluations will then be reviewed by two members of the program<br>   committee who will recommend a decision to the chair of the track<br>that<br>   the paper has been submitted to.  The chair will make the final<br>decision.<br>   Lastly, the Camera-Ready papers will be reviewed by one member of<br>the<br>   program committee.<br><br>Members of Program and Organizing Committees:<br><br>   The Program Committee includes members of chapters of World Academy<br>   of Science (chapters: supercomputing; scientific computing;<br>artificial<br>   intelligence; imaging science; databases; simulation; software<br>   engineering; embedded systems; internet and web technologies;<br>   communications; computer security; and bioinformatics.) The Program<br>   Committee for individual conferences is currently being compiled.<br>Those<br>   interested in joining the Program Committee should email H. R.<br>Arabnia<br>   (hra@<a href="http://cs.uga.edu" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">cs.uga.edu</a>) the following information: Name, affiliation and<br>   position, complete mailing address, email address, tel/fax numbers,<br>   a short biography together with research interests and the name of<br>   the conference offering to help with.<br><br>Location of Conferences:<br><br>   The conferences will be held in the Monte Carlo Resort hotel, Las<br>Vegas,<br>   Nevada, USA (with any overflows at other near-by hotels).  The Monte<br>   Carlo Resort is a mega hotel with excellent conference facilities<br>and<br>   over 3,000 rooms.  The hotel is minutes from the airport with<br>24-hour<br>   shuttle service to and from the airport.  This hotel has many<br>   recreational attractions, including: waterfalls, spa, pools, sunning<br>   decks, Easy River water ride, wave pool, lighted tennis courts,<br>   health spa (with workout equipment, whirlpool, sauna, ...),<br>   nightly shows, snack bars, many restaurants, shopping area, bars,<br>...<br>   Many of these attractions are open 24 hours a day and most are<br>suitable<br>   for families and children.  The negotiated room rate for conference<br>   attendees is very reasonable.  The hotel is within walking distance<br>   from most other attractions (major shopping areas, night clubs, free<br>   street shows, Golf courses, ...).<br><br>Co-Sponsors (this is a partial list):<br><br>   Academic Co-Sponsors of WORLDCOMP'07 include:<br>     - Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Media Laboratory,<br>       MIT (Cambridge, Massachusetts)<br>     - Statistical Genomics and Computational Biology Laboratory,<br>       Department of Statistics, Harvard University (Cambridge,<br>       Massachusetts)<br>     - Texas Advanced Computing Center, The University of Texas at<br>       Austin (Austin, Texas)<br>     - Statistical and Computational Intelligence Laboratory of<br>       Purdue University (West Lafayette, Indiana)<br>     - University of Iowa's Medical Imaging HPC Lab (Iowa City, Iowa)<br>     - Institute for Informatics Problems of the Russian Academy of<br>       Sciences, Moscow, Russia);<br>   Other Co-sponsors include:<br>     - HPCwire<br>     - GRIDtoday<br>     - STEM Education Society<br>     - HPCSoft, HPC Software Inc.<br>     - International Technology Institute (ITI)<br>     - H2cM - Hodges' Health, UK<br><br>Important Dates:<br><br>   Feb.  20, 2007:    Submission of full/draft papers (about 5 to 8<br>pages)<br>   March 20, 2007:    Notification of acceptance<br>   April 20, 2007:    Camera-Ready papers and Registration due<br>   June 25-28, 2007:  The 2007 World Congress in Computer Science,<br>                      Computer Engineering, and Applied Computing<br>                      (WORLDCOMP'07 - 24 joint conferences)<br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Random number generation using a 256-state cellular automaton]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,<br><br><br>I developed a 256-state cellular automaton that serves as a random<br>number generator. It's more than three times faster than the GNU<br>Scientific Library RNGs I tested (taus, gfsr4, mt19937, and ranlxd1)<br>and scores very well on the Diehard tests.<br><br><br>It's fast because the algorithm is basically an array lookup with<br>pointer value updates.<br><br><br>Alas, there is no proof about cycles or such, but the statistical<br>results so far are very good. Enjoy.<br><br><br>Code and results are here:<br><br><br><a href="http://home.southernct.edu/~pasqualonia1/ca/report.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://home.southernct.edu/~pasqualonia1/ca/report.html</a><br><br>                                                     <br>Tony Pasqualoni<br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: current favorite generator]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Bob Jenkins wrote:<br>> John Blackman has a test ("nda", it measures gaps between pairs of<br>> four-bit chunks) that found bias in this generator after about 1 GBytes.<br><br>"nda" or "dna"? Do you have a link for that test?<br><br>Cristiano <br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[True Real Number Generator]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br>Does anyone think a geiger (radiation) based<br>real number generator would be of interest ?<br>We are developing a small battery powered<br>unit for a project and may market it to the public<br>if it is viable.<br><br><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:22:18 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Indium _ Real Random Number Generator]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hi Guys!<br><br>I'm new to your group so I thought I would drop you a note and Let you<br>know about<br>a new real random number generator I have written called Indium.<br><br>It is a real random number generator not a pseduo-random one. It was<br>written in C<br>and I have placed all 900+ C functions inot the public domain. As a<br>open source<br>project I used every major encryption algorithm, one way hash function<br>and hundreds<br>more that I could find into it. Because of it's size and complexity it<br>is very sloooow<br>but the numbers it generates should be about as good as you can get.<br><br>I have incorporated Indium into a equally large encryption program I<br>call Vegas Vault.<br><br>If your interested in checking out either program the web site address<br>is:<br><br>               <a href="http://www.sincitysoftware.serverheaven.net" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">www.sincitysoftware.serverheaven.net</a><br><br>Both programs are open source and freeware. Enjoy!<br><br>                          Cheers.........Ken<br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[BBC links:Privacy Concerns over States/Corporations'Use of Personal Info]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hello,<br>The BBC news articles below address privacy concerns<br>over states' and corporations' use of personal data.<br>I think you will find the links useful.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Mashi<br><br>The basic summary is the following:<br>1. States collect personal info by various methods<br>(eg:CCTV/closed-circuit TV in roadways).<br>Corporations collect personal info by various means<br>(eg:credit card transactions).<br>2. The info collected by a single entity<br>(state/corporation) is considered<br>SEPERATELY BY ITSELF. The combination of<br>data collected by different entities is NOT<br>considered by many people.<br>3. Corporations are now building their businesses<br>by DATA MINING on previous customer interactions with them.<br>This is common practice.<br>4. If there are no safeguards to prevent corporations<br>from **SHARING** personal info with other corporations/state,<br>then IN THE FUTURE, an ECONOMY based on personal info<br>will come up (eg: a business targets only rich customers<br>based on info obtained from their bank records, insurance<br>companies may turn down requests based on info obtained<br>from health services etc).<br>5. If there are no safeguards to prevent state agencies<br>from **SHARING** personal info with other state<br>agencies/corporations, it could lead to SOCIAL DISCRIMINATION.<br>(eg: Traffic police may stop cars to do checks based on<br>info obtained from other state agencies regarding race of<br>the driver of car. ie. linking number plate to name, name to race,<br>and race to probability of person committing a crime).<br>6. Different ways outlined are CCTV(closed-circuit TV), number<br>plate recognition, shop RFID, mobile phone triangulation, store<br>loyalty cards, credit card transactions, electoral rolls,<br>health service records, TV preferences recording, worker<br>monitoring etc<br>       Although some of them apply to only DEVELOPED COUNTRIES<br>(like CCTV), many could also apply to DEVELOPING COUNTRIES<br>(like credit card transactions, mobile phones).<br>7. Concerns outlined are<br>   a. loss of privacy<br>   b. loss of choice/consent by consumers<br>   c. discrimination<br>8. IN THE FUTURE, when RFID (radio-frequence ID) tags become<br> cheap, they could create 'AN INTERNET OF THINGS'.<br>9. There are great risks if the info contained in the databases<br>are wrong/inaccurate or if it falls into wrong hands.<br><br>*How we are being watched -<br><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6110866.stm" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6110866.stm</a><br>*Britain is 'surveillance society' -<br><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6108496.stm" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6108496.stm</a><br>*Q&A: Radio-frequency ID tags -<br><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6055296.stm" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6055296.stm</a><br>*Trust warning over personal data -<br><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5172890.stm" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5172890.stm</a><br>*Is business the real Big Brother? -<br><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5015826.stm" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5015826.stm</a><br><br>Thanks,<br>Mashi<br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[current favorite generator]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[This C code snippet is my current favorite pseudorandom number<br>generator for statistical purposes:<br><br>typedef unsigned long int  u4;<br>typedef struct randctx { u4 a; u4 b; u4 c; u4 d; } randctx;<br><br>u4 rand( randctx *x ) {<br>    u4 e = x->a;<br>    x->a = x->b;<br>    x->b = (x->c<<19) + (x->c>>13) + x->d;<br>    x->c = x->d ^ x->a;<br>    x->d = e    + x->b;<br>    return x->c;<br>}<br><br>It's not cryptographically secure.  It can't cope with an all-zero<br>state.  Short cycles are not impossible, though I've never found one.<br>I typically seed it by initializing x->a = x->b = x->c = x->d = seed,<br>then call rand() ten times.  The things in its favor are it's small,<br>it's fast, it's well distributed, and its average cycle length is<br>2^^127 results.  It passes DIEHARD.  It passes uniformity, gap, and run<br>tests for at least 32G results (that's as far as I ran them).  This<br>generator is about the same as a possibly cryptographic generator I<br>posted in 2002, except with the array x->a scaled down to 1 element.<br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Predicting the output of a Random Generator]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Mpilot <mobilepilot@<a href="http://gmail.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>Kristian Gj<br>
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	<description><![CDATA[Mpilot <mobilepilot@<a href="http://gmail.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>Kristian Gj<br>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:38:34 PST</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA["Mpilot" <mobilepilot@<a href="http://gmail.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote in message <br>news:1165328330.989626.276950@<a href="http://80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com</a>...<br>>> But if you<br>>> genuinely want your system analyzed for pay then I am available, and I <br>>> have<br>>> walked people through the entire process before, but no cryptanalyst <br>>> comes<br>>> cheap. I will spoil the ending for you though, your system will fail to <br>>> meet<br>>> the Information-Theoretic security goal you laid out.<br>><br>> I can send you a file which is encoded with the FreeMove Quantum<br>> Exchange. I will pay you an amount on which we can agree in advance, if<br>> you send me the the decoded source file, including the method how you<br>> decoded the encoded source file, without having the private key.<br><br>You really should try reading what I write before you delete it:<br>> Now you are showing that you don't understand cryptography at all. Might I<br>> suggest reading some history surrounding the breaking of Enigma.<br><br>You should try understanding the realities of the situation before you go <br>proclaiming your ignorance.<br><br>><br>>> To achieve that goal<br>>> requires a pre-existing secure channel that has at least the average<br>>> bandwidth of the active channel, even though the pre-existing secure <br>>> channel<br>>> may be highly bursty. Otherwise what you have is a stream cipher, which<br>>> while they can be cryptographically secure, they cannot be<br>>> information-theoretically secure without the pre-existing channel.<br>><br>> I agree with you that public key systems can not be Information<br>> Theoretically secure. But the encoder and decoder of the FreeMove<br>> Quantum Exchange share in advance a private key, which gets refreshed<br>> once is has been used, by using part of the source channel capacity for<br>> communication of this new private key.<br><br>And there it is, right there, did you miss it? You just admitted it is not <br>information-theoretically secure. FreeMove's claim of information theoretic <br>security violates the fundamental principle that the pre-existing secure <br>channel MUST be at least as capacious as the communications channel. Your <br>sub-channel occupies part of the communications channel, so it cannot <br>provide more capacity than the communications channel. Since you also send <br>data over the communications channel, the sub-channel MUST be lower capacity <br>than the communications channel and therefore FreeMove cannot be information <br>theoretic secure.<br><br>So to recap, you have admitted that it is not information theoretic secure.<br><br><br>> The FreeMove Quantum Exchange functions which use fixed / mobile<br>> classical infrastructure as a communication channel, use quantum noise<br>> as the host data set in which source data is embedded.<br><br>So in short FreeMove uses quantum phenomena to generate random numbers. This <br>has nothing to do with the exchange.<br><br>I love this statement, it really is quite funny if you actually understand <br>the physics involved:<br>> Cloning is only possible with photons which have to be<br>> communicated over an optical communication infrastructure.<br><br>                    Joe<br><br><br>
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