Re: Reason Vs Endemic Evasion: The Idiotic Evolution Of Human Obesity
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Re: Reason Vs Endemic Evasion: The Idiotic Evolution Of Human Obesity         

Group: sci.bio.evolution · Group Profile
Author: Ron O
Date: Jan 28, 2007 22:20

On Jan 27, 12:04 pm, "John Edser" ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Does anybody here doubt that chronic evasion enforced by tribal conformity
> can win for a long time against empirically based reason? Have the eating
> habits of the average USA citizen reached rock bottom after obesity has
> finally (whew what a battle) become acknowledged as a chronic disease? No.
> Evasion continues. Preventable hypoglycemia, diabetes, heart disease and
> cancer continue to increase incapacitating and destroying the lives of
> younger and younger people as the appalling US diet plumbs new depths
> (only matched by electric music). Possibly the worst outcome of is that
> heath care in the US is inevitably predicted to steadily be less and less
> affordable as people chomp their way into an early junk food grave only
> because it correctly reflects this awful market reality.
>
> How can any intelligent member of the general public reconcile the billions
> spent on scientific research with the _continuing absurdity_ of the average
> American diet? What we see here can only be explained as limiting reason to
> what remains politically acceptable. A classic example is the popular Atkins
> diet which actually encouraged overweight (i.e. chronically ill) people to
> poison their system by entering ketosis forcing off a few kilos without
> removing the artery hardening risks known to be associated with excess
> animal products. How could any responsible adult advocate such insanity?
> Atkins hid the fact (or did not now) that he had heart disease which was
> only discovered after he was said to have died by accident.
>
> http://www.pritikin.com/eperspective/specialissues/pritikinatkins/ind...
>
> It is still possible to read reams and reams of utterly biased nonsense re:
> carbs Vs fat and protein battle which has finally resolved itself into: what
> we meant to say all along was COMPLEX carbs and not just carbs (duh).
> Meanwhile, advocates of a rational diet based on evolutionary theory (eating
> a wide range of natural unprocessed foods in season which mostly consists of
> high fiber vegetarian products all of which remain low G.I) mostly enjoying
> good health look on in wonder and amazement as flabby gilled "experts" spit
> venom at each other over something so obvious. I am beginning to come around
> to thinking that Peter's AEVASIVE psychology (which I do not understand)
> must have some truth to it.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Edser
> Independent Researcher
>
> e...@ozemail.com.au

What will likely be learned from obesity research is that the genetic
variants that are associated with obesity will be found to have had
some selective advantage in early agricultural and hunter gatherer
cultures. We like fatty foods, for a reason. This has selective
advantage when food sources have to be searched for, but not when they
are handed to you on a silver platter. Famine survival of certain
alleles compared to others. A lot of the skinny guys wouldn't make it
through the lean times of uncertain food availability. Behavioral
traits, etc. Obese people may just be giving into their natural
tendencies. They have to go against their ingrained behaviors in some
cases. Just look at the poor guys that have melanocortin receptor
knockout mutations that normally regulate food intake. These guys
would be expected to be "hungrier" than normal, and they have to be
forced to go against that stimulus.

Ron Okimoto
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