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Author: Tim TylerTim Tyler Date: Feb 29, 2008 22:13
Most of my recent, brief essay on why islands leave relatively
few fossils is presented below:
Islands are important as crucibles for new species, and it seems
reasonable to expect that much of the world's gradual evolution has
taken place on them.
However islands leave relatively few fossils.
Many islands are volcanic - and fossils tend to prefer to take up
residence in sedimentary rocks.
Many other islands are eventually eroded and crumble into the sea.
This must be an extremely common fate of small islands. Such an island
will leave no fossils.
Next, fossils tend to form in sediments in lakes. Islands are less
likely to have lakes in the first place. Many lakes are high in the
mountains - where the ground is rocky. Islands tend to form from more
coastal land. Islands have large perimeters, and it is easy for the
perimeter to intersect what was once a lake - and thus drain it. Even
for lakes inland, the small scale of an island may reduce its drainage
basin - and fewer animals will leave bones in smaller lakes.
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Author: LorentzLorentz Date: Mar 7, 2008 10:36
On Mar 1, 1:13 am, Tim Tyler cyberspace.org> wrote:
> Most of my recent, brief essay on why islands leave relatively
> few fossils is presented below:
>
> Islands are important as crucibles for new species, and it seems
> reasonable to expect that much of the world's gradual evolution has
> taken place on them.
>
> However islands leave relatively few fossils.
>
> Many islands are volcanic - and fossils tend to prefer to take up
> residence in sedimentary rocks.
>
> Many other islands are eventually eroded and crumble into the sea.
> This must be an extremely common fate of small islands. Such an island
> will leave no fossils.
>
There is a spot in New Mexico where the fossils are supposed to
be from an ancient lagoon in the Pennsylvanian era. The Kinney Brick
Quarry, Late Pennsylvanian, in Central central New Mexico provides a ...
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Author: Tim TylerTim Tyler Date: Mar 8, 2008 17:12
Lorentz wrote:
> I don't think "islands in the sea" are actually the most
> productive means of isolation for stimulating evolution.
Caves and mountains represent other types of isolation, though
often do not represent terribly hospitable environments.
Freshwater lakes can be isolation - for fishies.
E.g. the Cichlid fishes of the great lakes.
These would seem to offer relatively good fossil potential.
Glaciation and deserts could also produce isolation.
It is normally the interior - not the exterior of the desert that
is isolated - and again this is not a terribly hospitable environment,
and might not leave too many fossils.
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Author: Aidan KarleyAidan Karley Date: Mar 9, 2008 15:33
In article darwin.ediacara.org>, Lorentz wrote:
> I recently saw a Discovery channel special where scientists
> climbed a steep plateau near the Amazon river.
>
I suspect that you're thinking of the tepuis, which form part of
the watershed between the Amazon and Orinoco basins.
> All sorts of radically
> altered creatures lived on top of the plateau. Alas, no dinosaurs
> which one was looking for. But these really odd spiders. Granite
> chomping bacteria were found in a cave...
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Author: Paul CrowleyPaul Crowley Date: Mar 18, 2008 22:20
> Most of my recent, brief essay on why islands leave relatively
> few fossils is presented below:
>
> Islands are important as crucibles for new species, and it seems
> reasonable to expect that much of the world's gradual evolution has
> taken place on them.
>
> However islands leave relatively few fossils.
>
> Many islands are volcanic - and fossils tend to prefer to take up
> residence in sedimentary rocks.
>
> Many other islands are eventually eroded and crumble into the sea.
> This must be an extremely common fate of small islands. Such an island
> will leave no fossils.
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Author: Tim TylerTim Tyler Date: Mar 19, 2008 10:18
Paul Crowley wrote:
>> However islands leave relatively few fossils.
>>
>> Many islands are volcanic - and fossils tend to prefer to take up
>> residence in sedimentary rocks.
>>
>> Many other islands are eventually eroded and crumble into the sea.
>> This must be an extremely common fate of small islands. Such an island
>> will leave no fossils.
>
> You have ignored the fact that sea-levels
> constantly rise and fall. This has two
> enormous consequences. Firstly, islands
> are (over evolutionary time) frequently
> created and destroyed. But, broadly,
> they last long enough to allow for new
> speciations.
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Author: LorentzLorentz Date: Mar 20, 2008 10:19
On Mar 8, 9:12 pm, Tim Tyler cyberspace.org> wrote:
> Lorentz wrote:
>> I don't think "islands in the sea" are actually the most
>> productive means of isolation for stimulating evolution.
> Caves and mountains represent other types of isolation,
> Freshwater lakes can be isolation - for fishies.
> Glaciation and deserts could also produce isolation.
> It is normally the interior -
I think my point is that all these environments can form pockets
of isolation. Furthermore, these pockets don't have to last millions
of years, just maybe a few thousand. The pocket has to be isolated
just long enough to form a hybridization barrier. Once the subspecies
has formed a hybridization barrier, even a partial hybridization
barrier, it has the potential of becoming a new species and eventually
a new class of animals.
The hybridization barrier in effect becomes a portable island. The
animal is embedded in its pocket of isolation. The pocket will grow
deeper with time. Maybe a hole in the pocket will form, generating a
taxon much higher than species. Even a difference in mating behavior
can start the evolution ball rolling. ...
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