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Re: Memes controlling evolution         


Author: John W Edser
Date: May 13, 2008 11:14

engler@gmail.com wrote:-
> Memes that were able to help minds survive
> that house a favorable environment for the memes
> themselves survive would be at an advantage to
> memes that were not able to do this. Also memes
> that were able to kill off minds that would destroy
> them would also be at an advantage over memes that
> were unable to do this.

JE:-
Darwinian fitness is predicated on reproduction
and not survival. Your argument represents the
Spencerian "survival of the fittest" and "red in
tooth and claw" misinterpretation of Darwinism.

Memes, like genes, exist within bodies such that
the "knee bone is connected to the thigh bone",
i.e. the selection of any one meme remains NON
additive to at least one other within the same
mind even...
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Re: Memes controlling evolution         


Author: Entertained by my own EIMC
Date: May 17, 2008 14:53

"John W Edser" ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:g0cmbb$1o1c$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
>
> Unlike most genes, memes easily leap from
> person to person without a new body
> being reproduced every time. The net result
> of this is that an unfit meme can take over
> what is just a shrinking population, killing
> in a cancerous way. Like the independently
> segregating but dependently selected "selfish
> genes" (which remain predicated on Hamilton's
> oversimplified i.e. deletion of a critical
> theory constant, model) cancerous selfish
> cells and selfish memes cannot be
> independently selected. This means that a
> gene, a cell or a meme must increase the
> total number of fertile forms reproduced
> per parent per population (which I define
> as Total Darwinian Fitness TDF), in order
> to be selected for. ...
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