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Re: Evolutionary compassion         


Author: John W Edser
Date: Aug 30, 2007 11:10

Lorentz yahoo.com wrote:
> On Aug 28, 2:06 am, Brian VanPelt earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Is it possible that compassion. or love, is something that has evolved
>> over time? If Darwin was correct, and if it is possible that
>> compassion/love were to have evolved, then why would it be in our best
>> interest to have compassion/love?
> He pointed out that in terms of the naive "survivor of the
> fittest" model, there is no value in a dog taking care of a cat. Cats
> and dogs are not natural friends, and may even have a few antagonistic
> instincts. However, the dog took care of the kittens and showed
> extreme affection for it. He even claimed that the dog continue to
> show affection for the kittens well into adulthood.
> I have heard the argument that the dog didn't really show
> compassion. She merely thought the kittens were her puppies. However,
> that is pretty silly. It gives her too much credit for way too much
> intelligence. She didn't know the difference between kittens and
> puppies.

JE:-
The probability that a dog will find itself in a situation where it ends up
accidentally nursing kittens in the wild is just about zero. This means that
nature has never needed to provide a dog...
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Re: Evolutionary compassion         


Author: Brian VanPelt
Date: Aug 31, 2007 21:56

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:10:45 -0400 (EDT), "John W Edser"
ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>Lorentz yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Aug 28, 2:06 am, Brian VanPelt earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Is it possible that compassion. or love, is something that has evolved
>>> over time? ...
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Re: Evolutionary compassion         


Author: Glen M. Sizemore
Date: Sep 1, 2007 15:25

"Anyways, the dog taking care of the cats and other ideas have really
got me thinking hard about what we are, our choices and behaviors and,
most importantly, why we make those choices."

See the 50 years of research here:

http://seab.envmed.rochester.edu/jeab/
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Re: Evolutionary compassion         


Author: Entertained by my own EIMC
Date: Sep 1, 2007 15:25

"Brian VanPelt" earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fbardq$ffl$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:10:45 -0400 (EDT), "John W Edser"
> ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> Would an ant care for an elephant? Or is that just too silly to
> comprehend?
>
> What, exactly, is possible or impossible from an evolutionary
> standpoint? Or is this question even possible to try to answer? How
> stupid of a question is it?

"What Is" is infinite, but *not to the extent* that it "allows" an ant (i.e.
what we mean by ant) to care for an elephant (i.e. what we mean by an
elephant).

Though it can appear silly on the surface, your question can also be seen as
a sharp and clever tool for highlighting an effectively psychobiological
truth (- this particular evolutionary psychobiological type thinking about /
and aspect of / What Is going on).
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