| Re: Biological basis of Food In Waste out , Four Options |
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Group: sci.bio.evolution · Group Profile
Author: Tom HendricksTom Hendricks Date: Sep 12, 2008 10:28
On Sep 11, 11:28=A0am, Entertained by my own EIMC
iinet.net.au> wrote:> Tom Hendricks wrote:
>> I've often talked about how life has evolved on four specific paths tha=
t can be called food in / waste out. Two paths or options to food in. Two p=
aths or options to waste out.
>
>> The four options are
>> 1 Nurturing* taken in.
>> 2 Non nurturing (waste) blocked out.
>> 3 Nurturing held in
>> 4 Non nurturing (waste) excreted out.
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> As far as I can imagine what you mean, you made a mistake by including
> "(waste)" in the line describing option #2.
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> Otherwise I can hardly complain about how deeply you have descriptively
> boiled down the logic of life.
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> My similar but 'more EPT' (my tepid teasing that is actually true as far
> as what EPT stands for) philosophical investment of emotional energy
> produced thinking that amongst else became an attempt to identify the
> minimal set of survival strategies available to single celled animals -
> which resulted in something almost as "boiled-down".
> That is, what I concluded was that "the four F's" [feeding, fleeing,
> and (though not relevant to/not on repertoire of amoebas) fighting and
> 'fathering' (of daughter-cells), could with some confidence be extended
> to include foraging and *freezing* (similar to the adaptive function of
> both hibernation - whether general or specific/synaptic, though only
> 'general hibernation' is possible in the case of single-celled animals).
Thanks for your thoughts. My four options seem to have developed
from the food in waste out processes. Does your four F's have a bio
basis?
Most if not all, seem to fit in my four options.
Fighting would be option 2 blocking out
Fleeing would be option 4 waste out or separating from waste.
(these two also represent fight and flight the stress response.
though women react to stress with what is termed tend and befriend.
These four stress reactions, each fit one of the four options).
Feeding would be both option 1 take in nurturing, and 3 hold in
nurturing
while processing waste would be option 4.
Fathering is more tricky, though I think replication would be mostly
option 4
where the daughter cell separates from the father cell.
Foraging would be option 1 moving toward food nurturing.
Freezing would be sleeping which I tend to think is option 3 and 4.
Note that
Option 1 and 2 are social and involve things outside the cell
membrane.
Option 3 and 4 are self and involve mostly things inside the cell
membrane.
These four are not set in stone and often a major bio process will
involve more
than one. But I think it is a start to further describing the results
of natural selection
and specific ways it develops in all organism.
Thoughts?
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