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Author: whitesicklewhitesickle Date: Nov 4, 2006 14:39
Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which says that
an advantageous behavior, once it has appeared in a population, will
gradually reshape the genes of the species which has adopted it.
"At the end of the 19th century, biologist J. M. Baldwin enunciated the
Baldwin Effect, which observed that when a species learns a useful new
skill, the addition to its behavioral repertoire will reshape its
biology. Over time, says Baldwin, natural selection will bless the
members of ensuing generations whose limbs and brains are suited to the
maneuver, and cull out those whose anatomy is ill-suited to the
innovative gambit." (Steven Levy, Artificial Life. New York: Vintage,
1993, p. 265.)
What scientific empirical evidence is there of the Baldwin Effect. It
seems unlikely learning an advantageous behavior will gradually reshape
the genes of the species which has adopted it. Isn't it possible it is
the reverse; genes were selected which led to advantageous behaviour(s)
in a population?
Michael Ragland
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Author: John WilkinsJohn Wilkins Date: Nov 5, 2006 12:21
whitesickle@ msn.com msn.com> wrote:
> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which...
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Author: drosen0000drosen0000 Date: Nov 5, 2006 12:21
> What scientific empirical evidence is there of the Baldwin Effect.
Descriptions of the Baldwin effect, and similar effects, is
described in the book that I have just read:
"Evolution in Four Dimensions," by Eva Jablonka and Marion J. Lamb (a
Bradford book, MIT Press) first paperback edition in 2006, earlier
edition 2005.
The book is sort of a review, but it does broadly describe and
reference experimental studies for behavior-modified natural selection.
Lorentz
>It
> seems unlikely learning an advantageous behavior will gradually reshape
> the genes of the species which has adopted it. Isn't it possible it is
> the reverse; genes were selected which led to advantageous behaviour(s)
> in a population?
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> Michael Ragland
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Author: Inman HarveyInman Harvey Date: Nov 6, 2006 10:42
> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which says that
> an advantageous behavior, once it has appeared in a population, will
> gradually reshape the genes of the species which has adopted it.
>
> "At the end of the 19th century, biologist J. M. Baldwin enunciated the
> Baldwin Effect, which observed that when a species learns a useful new
> skill, the addition to its behavioral repertoire will reshape its
> biology. Over time, says Baldwin, natural selection will bless the
> members of ensuing generations whose limbs and brains are suited to the
> maneuver, and cull out those whose anatomy is ill-suited to the
> innovative gambit." (Steven Levy, Artificial Life. New York: Vintage,
> 1993, p. 265.)
>
> What scientific empirical evidence is there of the Baldwin Effect. It
> seems unlikely learning an advantageous behavior will gradually reshape
> the genes of the species which has adopted it. Isn't it possible it is
> the reverse; genes were selected which led to advantageous behaviour(s) ...
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Author: whitesicklewhitesickle Date: Nov 7, 2006 22:25
Inman Harvey wrote:
>> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
>> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
>> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which says that
>> an advantageous behavior, once it has appeared in a population, will
>> gradually reshape the genes of the species which has adopted it.
>>
>> "At the end of the 19th century, biologist J. M. Baldwin enunciated the
>> Baldwin Effect, which observed that when a species learns a useful new
>> skill, the addition to its behavioral repertoire will reshape its
>> biology. Over time, says Baldwin, natural selection will bless the
>> members of ensuing generations whose limbs and brains are suited to the
>> maneuver, and cull out those whose anatomy is ill-suited to the
>> innovative gambit." (Steven Levy, Artificial Life. New York: Vintage,
>> 1993, p. 265.)
>>
>> What scientific empirical evidence is there of the Baldwin Effect. It
>> seems unlikely learning an advantageous behavior will gradually reshape
>> the genes of the species which has adopted it. Isn't it possible it is ...
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Author: whitesicklewhitesickle Date: Nov 7, 2006 22:25
Inman Harvey wrote:
>> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
>> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
>> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which says that
>> an advantageous behavior, once it has appeared in a population, will
>> gradually reshape the genes of the species which has adopted it.
>>
>> "At the end of the 19th century, biologist J. M. Baldwin enunciated the
>> Baldwin Effect, which observed that when a species learns a useful new
>> skill, the addition to its behavioral repertoire will reshape its
>> biology. Over time, says Baldwin, natural selection will bless the
>> members of ensuing generations whose limbs and brains are suited to the
>> maneuver, and cull out those whose anatomy is ill-suited to the
>> innovative gambit." (Steven Levy, Artificial Life. New York: Vintage,
>> 1993, p. 265.)
>>
>> What scientific empirical evidence is there of the Baldwin Effect. It
>> seems unlikely learning an advantageous behavior will gradually reshape
>> the genes of the species which has adopted it. Isn't it possible it is ...
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Author: dkomodkomo Date: Nov 7, 2006 22:25
> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which...
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Author: William MorseWilliam Morse Date: Nov 7, 2006 22:25
>> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
>> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
>> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding...
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Author: Perplexed in PeoriaPerplexed in Peoria Date: Nov 9, 2006 13:30
>
> Inman Harvey wrote:
>>> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
>>> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
>>> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which says that
>>> an advantageous behavior, once it has appeared in a population, will
>>> gradually reshape the genes of the species which has adopted it.
>>>
>>> "At the end of the 19th century, biologist J. M. Baldwin enunciated the
>>> Baldwin Effect, which observed that when a species learns a useful new
>>> skill, the addition to its behavioral repertoire will reshape its
>>> biology. Over time, says Baldwin, natural selection will bless the
>>> members of ensuing generations whose limbs and brains are suited to the
>>> maneuver, and cull out those whose anatomy is ill-suited to the
>>> innovative gambit." (Steven Levy, Artificial Life. New York: Vintage,
>>> 1993, p. 265.)
>>>
>>> What scientific empirical evidence is there of the Baldwin Effect. It ...
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Author: whitesicklewhitesickle Date: Nov 9, 2006 13:30
William Morse wrote:
>>> Okay, I jumped the gun and rendered my opinion without necessarily
>>> knowing everything about the so-called Baldwin Effect. I read the
>>> Baldwin Effect is a longstanding evolutionary principle which says
> that
>>> an advantageous behavior, once it has appeared in a population, will
>>> gradually reshape the genes of the species which has adopted it.
>>>
>>> "At the end of the 19th century, biologist J. M. Baldwin enunciated
> the
>>> Baldwin Effect, which observed that when a species learns a useful new
>>> skill, the addition to its behavioral repertoire will reshape its
>>> biology. Over time, says Baldwin, natural selection will bless the
>>> members of ensuing generations whose limbs and brains are suited to
> the
>>> maneuver, and cull out those whose anatomy is ill-suited to the ...
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