Are Hens Eggs Both Male and/either Female? (or is "The Birds and Bees",the worst possible Sex analogy ?
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Are Hens Eggs Both Male and/either Female? (or is "The Birds and Bees",the worst possible Sex analogy ?         


Author: DrBenway
Date: Aug 15, 2006 10:03

I recently discovered some fairly interesting factoids about the
hens/birds eggs that most of us eat .

I was raised a city boy so forgive me my ignorance ) but this
lead me to a few bio/genetics questions (to follow) hopefully the more
educated in this group can help me with them.

Background
Hens will produce as much as 1 shelled egg a day when they are in
their laying cycle

If the hen has mated with a rooster within the last 3-4 weeks the eggs
can be fertilized by the sperm she STORED!, However the shelled
end-product egg we know will be created now around the SINGLE egg-cell
gamete, added yolk, and albumin, whether they have been fertilized OR
NOT.

Commercial diary eggs are NOT fertilized (hens kept away from
roosters) The blood spot often found in eggs is not an embryo
product, it is just from the hen bursting a capillary and the yolk
touching it before the shell is grown around the unfertilized egg!

Hens generally produce about six eggs and then go into a brooding
cycle were they would incubate the eggs for their 21 day hatch date
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Re: Are Hens Eggs Both Male and/either Female? (or is "The Birds and Bees",the worst possible Sex analogy ?         


Author: Perplexed in Peoria
Date: Aug 16, 2006 09:38

"DrBenway" somewhere.com> wrote in message news:ebsuo8$890$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
> I recently discovered some fairly interesting factoids about the
> hens/birds eggs that most of us eat .
>
> I was raised a city boy so forgive me my ignorance ) but this
> lead me to a few bio/genetics questions (to follow) hopefully the more
> educated in this group can help me with them.
>
> Background
> Hens will produce as much as 1 shelled egg a day when they are in
> their laying cycle
>
> If the hen has mated with a rooster within the last 3-4 weeks the eggs
> can be fertilized by the sperm she STORED!, However the shelled
> end-product egg we know will be created now around the SINGLE egg-cell
> gamete, added yolk, and albumin, whether they have been fertilized OR
> NOT.
>
> Commercial diary eggs are NOT fertilized (hens kept away from
> roosters) The blood spot often found in eggs is not an embryo ...
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Re: Are Hens Eggs Both Male and/either Female? (or is "The Birds and Bees",the worst possible Sex analogy ?         


Author: Ron O
Date: Aug 16, 2006 09:38

DrBenway wrote:
> I recently discovered some fairly interesting factoids about the
> hens/birds eggs that most of us eat .
>
> I was raised a city boy so forgive me my ignorance ) but this
> lead me to a few bio/genetics questions (to follow) hopefully the more
> educated in this group can help me with them.
>
> Background
> Hens will produce as much as 1 shelled egg a day when they are in
> their laying cycle
>
> If the hen has mated with a rooster within the last 3-4 weeks the eggs
> can be fertilized by the sperm she STORED!, However the shelled
> end-product egg we know will be created now around the SINGLE egg-cell
> gamete, added yolk, and albumin, whether they have been fertilized OR
> NOT.
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Re: Are Hens Eggs Both Male and/either Female? (or is "The Birds and Bees",the worst possible Sex analogy ?         


Author: r norman
Date: Aug 16, 2006 09:38

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:03:04 -0400 (EDT), DrBenway somewhere.com>
wrote:
>I recently discovered some fairly interesting factoids about the
>hens/birds eggs that most of us eat .
>


>Birds have (aside from an apparently amazingly poorly understood ,
>sexual gene/chromosomal mapping) A gender genotyping that is ZZ/WZ
>and very "opposite" the mammalian one in that all male Duploid...
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Re: Are Hens Eggs Both Male and/either Female? (or is "The Birds and Bees",the worst possible Sex analogy ?         


Author: seemysig
Date: Aug 18, 2006 15:18

DrBenway wrote:
> The 50:50 randomness of Mammalian Meiosis is understandable
> by the meiosis divisions of the 1:4 sperm and 1:1 egg,
> multiplication/divisions as I understand them.

Alas, complications - e.g. see:

Sex Ratio at Birth, by country:

e/female%%26format%%3D.htm
....and...

``Because the male mortality rate is slightly higher than
the female mortality rate at most ages, the sex ratio at
birth is higher than that observed later in life, for
example, at 1 year of age or at reproductive age. And it is
generally believed that the sex ratio at conception, that
is, the primary sex ratio, is even more skewed in favor of
males than is the secondary sex ratio.''
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