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Re. Somebody should publish proper cockroach research         


Date: Apr 5, 2008 00:28

>> Re. Newly emptied icecream-tub which catches masses of ccs for
>> the 1st 2 days only & then they are able to climb out & not drown.
>> Apparently there's some microscopic effect on the tub's inner
>> surface, which disappears after a few days usage. And strong
>> washing doesn't restore it.
>
>> Why can't some researcher build on this observation ?

Tom Davidson wrote:-
> Try *soapy* water in your ice cream tub. Used dishwater will do.
> A cockroach can survive for a month in an atmosphere of HCl fumes
> (I ran the experiment in 1977) but will drown in soapy water in
> seconds (a lesson I learned from my Grandmother in the 1950's).
>
> Cockroaches have no lungs or gills. They respire by diffusion through
> their exoskeletons. Without a layer of air on their exoskeletons they
> drown quickly. Detergents allow the exoskeleton to get wet in spite
> of its waxy coating.
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Re: Re. Somebody should publish proper cockroach research         


Author: Edward Green
Date: Apr 5, 2008 05:05

On Apr 5, 3:28 am, problems@gmail wrote:
>>> Re. Newly emptied icecream-tub which catches masses of ccs for
>>> the 1st 2 days only & then they are able to climb out & not drown.
>>> Apparently there's some microscopic effect on the tub's inner
>>> surface, which disappears after a few days usage. And strong  
>>> washing doesn't restore it.

Probably a microfilm of icecream.
>>> Why can't some researcher build on this observation ?
> Tom Davidson wrote:-
>> Try *soapy* water in your ice cream tub. Used dishwater will do.
>> A cockroach can survive for a month in an atmosphere of HCl fumes
>> (I ran the experiment in 1977) but will drown in soapy water in
>> seconds (a lesson I learned from my Grandmother in the 1950's).

I learned, when once besieged by large black ants, that ants will swim
in tap water, but die in seconds in alcohol. Accordingly, I wiped out
the column by picking them up one by one by hand and dropping them
into a jar of alcohol (oh yes... they were too hard to crush with your
fingers -- and obviously they didn't bite effectively).
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Re: Somebody should publish proper cockroach research         


Author: Benj
Date: Apr 5, 2008 09:50

On Apr 5, 8:05 am, Edward Green netzero.com> wrote:
> Good luck killing roaches reproducibly with any scheme. They adapt
> quickly.

Gotta love cockroach research! "Mythbusters" on the Discovery channel
recently tested the "post atomic war" cockroach survival theories at
the Pacific Northwest National Laboratories. Bugs were dosed with
1000, 10,000 and 100,000 Rads of radiation. (Note 1000 rads is lethal
to humans. Some cockroaches in the first two groups survived, but
died in the highest dose. Only flour beetles survived the 100,000
rads.

However, I can speak with some authority on the adaptability of
cockroaches. At Ohio State there used to be an old factory-like
chemistry building known as "the sawtooth" (so named for the 19th
century...
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