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Author: Ken from ChicagoKen from Chicago Date: Dec 26, 2007 00:33
"Howard Brazee" brazee.net> wrote in message
news:p183n35oe4psu2rdd6ef895afen6153vut@4ax.com...> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:20:57 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
> comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Even with eternal youth, would you want to live to be 1000? Remember
>>
>>Yes.
>
> Possibly for me - but I doubt it. I keep seeing people getting tired
> of the same old thing or becoming rigid in unattractive ways.
>
>>> the world keeps changing and you would be an obvious outsider. It
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>>No. Not if everyone were immortal.
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> Only if the future generations have no power.
What?
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Author: Ken from ChicagoKen from Chicago Date: Dec 26, 2007 00:36
> In rec.arts.sf.science Howard Brazee brazee.net> wrote:>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:20:57 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
>> comcast.net> wrote:>>>> the world keeps changing and you would be an obvious outsider. It
>>>
>>>No. Not if everyone were immortal.
>>
>> Only if the future generations have no power.
>
> It has been argued that the only thing which allows true change is the old
> leaders dying off to make room for the new. If this is true, then when the
> old leaders stop dying off, change will cease.
Tell that to former presidents, kings, queens, dictators.
> I don't know if I really believe it, but it's somewhat convincing.
>
>>>> would be hard to keep interested in life for a thousand years.
>>>
>>>You underestimate how interesting life and the universe...
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Author: Gene Ward SmithGene Ward Smith Date: Dec 26, 2007 04:30
On Dec 25, 12:01 pm, "Ken from Chicago" comcast.net>
wrote:>> On Dec 25, 4:59 am, "Ken from Chicago" comcast.net>
>> wrote:>
>>>> What's your definition of "immortality"?
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>>> "Eternal youth" (with "youth" being around 20-30 years physically).
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>> This would require continual tinkering with the brain, with unknown as
>> yet effects on its function.
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> The body constantly regenerate cells. It's the stopping of regeneration
> that's odd.
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Author: Howard BrazeeHoward Brazee Date: Dec 26, 2007 05:11
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:33:56 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
comcast.net> wrote:
>> So what do you guess the half-life is of how long average people will
>> be interested in living?
>
>Infinity.
Half-life of infinity? You mean most EVERYBODY would want to live
forever?
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Author: Jasper JanssenJasper Janssen Date: Dec 26, 2007 06:55
On 25 Dec 2007 00:35:09 GMT, "Dan Goodman" iphouse.com> wrote:
>And the simplified Federal tax code (in the US, but presumably there
>are parallels elsewhere).
.nl really has a simpler tax code and especially a vastly more simple form
to fill out than it did 20 years ago. Not *simple* by any means, but
simple*r*, yeah.
Jasper
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Author: David DeLaneyDavid DeLaney Date: Dec 26, 2007 07:20
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:11:17 -0700, Howard Brazee brazee.net> wrote:>On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:33:56 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
> comcast.net> wrote:>>> So what do you guess the half-life is of how long average people will
>>> be interested in living?
>>
>>Infinity.
>
>Half-life of infinity? You mean most EVERYBODY would want to live forever?
I personally want to live at least long enough to catch up on my reading. But
more books come out every month...
Dave
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Author: Joseph NebusJoseph Nebus Date: Dec 26, 2007 07:19
Jasper Janssen jjanssen.org> writes:
>On 25 Dec 2007 00:35:09 GMT, "Dan Goodman" iphouse.com> wrote:>>And the simplified Federal tax code (in the US, but presumably there
>>are parallels elsewhere).
>.nl really has a simpler tax code and especially a vastly more simple form
>to fill out than it did 20 years ago. Not *simple* by any means, but
>simple*r*, yeah.
Singapore's income tax system had a pretty convenient setup.
My employer reported my income right to Inland Revenue; my donations and
other deductions were similarly reported right to them. Around about
March I had to fill in a form stating whether there was anything else
they should know about, and there wasn't, and then a few months after
that they send the tax bill, for which I could set up automatic payment
from a bank account. Really, they didn't need my involvement in any of
it. All I ever added to the system was a two-week delay when I lost the
forms one year.
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Author: DougLDougL Date: Dec 26, 2007 08:02
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:11:17 -0700, Howard Brazee brazee.net> wrote:>>On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:33:56 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
>> comcast.net> wrote:>>>> So what do you guess the half-life is of how long average people will
>>>> be interested in living?
>
>>>Infinity.
>
>>Half-life of infinity? Â You mean most EVERYBODY would want to live forever?
>
> I personally want to live at least long enough to catch up on my reading. But
> more books come out every month...
I used to think that immortality would eventually get intollerably
boring.
Then I considered something.
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Author: Wallace WrightWallace Wright Date: Dec 26, 2007 08:34
On Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 06:51:22AM -0600, Ken from Chicago wrote:
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> "Jon Schild" xmission.com> wrote in message
> news:fkovp0$mlo$2@news.xmission.com...>>
>> Robert Clark wrote:
>>> Would you give up your immortality to ensure the success of a
>>> posthuman world?
>>
>> Absolutely. And it isn't that hard a question. Maybe when you are 20 or 30
>> the idea of living forever seems attractive, but wait until you get older
>> and assorted body parts no longer work like they should. Then you can
>> understand the full meaning of a button I have seen at several worldcons:
>>
>> "Immortality -- A Fate Worse than Death"
>
> That's assuming you continue to decay--as opposed to stabilizing around 30
> years physically. And that pain medication loses effectiveness. One of the...
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Author: Wallace WrightWallace Wright Date: Dec 26, 2007 08:34
On Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 02:17:22PM -0600, Ken from Chicago wrote:
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> "John Schilling" spock.usc.edu> wrote in message
> news:6ff2n3l9hmaaja039cjtvdqnjb5gkngpv3@4ax.com...>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:57:28 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
>> comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>"John Schilling" spock.usc.edu> wrote in message
>>>news:p730n3p1mqm94ui7sa6sdo488s2qb80ga6@4ax.com...>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:02:39 -0800, Jon Schild xmission.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>Robert Clark wrote:
>>>>>> Would you give up your immortality to ensure the success of a
>>>>>> posthuman world?
>>>>>
>>>>>Absolutely. And it isn't that hard a question. Maybe when you are 20 or
>>>>>30 the idea of living forever seems attractive, but wait until you get
>>>>>older and assorted body parts no longer work like they should. Then you ...
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