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Author: Androcles
Date: Oct 3, 2007 16:02

"Eric Chomko" comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1191441860.026846.262140@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
: On Oct 2, 4:53 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
: > "Eric Chomko" comcast.net> wrote in message
: >
: > news:1191347925.479350.195610@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
: > : On Oct 1, 3:21 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
: > : > "Eric Chomko" comcast.net> wrote in message
: > : >
: > : [...]
: > : >
: > : > > How come my soccer cards are worth much less than my baseball
cards?
: > : >
: > : > > Err... resting on your laurels?
: > : > > Nah... Soccer players pay income tax to a socialist government
that
: > : > > has VAT (equivalent to your sales tax) set at 17.5%%.
: > : >
: > : > : Somehow I think you missed the point about sports cards.
: > : >
: > : > An object or service is worth whatever someone will pay for it.
: > :
: > : Yes, I know that. The point is that baseball cards in general are
: > : worth more than football (and soccer) cards even though that football
: > : is more popular than baseball these days.
: > :
: > : Soccer cards are below basketball, hockey, and NASCAR (no kidding!).
: > :
: > : > Since you would have to pay me for me to dispose of your waste
: > : > paper for you it has negative value, whatever picture is printed on
it.
: > :
: > : Even the hot cheerleaders?! I heard about your Navy back in the 1800s
: > : and all, liking one another - if you get my drift, but you're
: > : borderlining on ridiculous. :)
: > :
: > : Wasn't it that issue and scurvy that made them famous?
: >
: > No, it was kicking Nappy's arse at Cape Trafalgar without any baseball
: > cards to look at.
: >
: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar
: > The French and Spanish lost 22 ships, while the British lost none.
: > That's how we won the War of 1812 in 1805, seven years early.
: > It was like shooting fish in a barrel, the same as the road to Basra.
:
: What poem was Kipling on about being a soldier on the battlefield?
: Boer war? Afghanistan?

Did you see it on a baseball card?

Kipling wrote a lot of stuff...
They (hyenas) find the easiest meat that they can, because
"a goat may butt, and a worm may sting,
and a child will sometimes stand;
But a poor dead soldier of a king
Can never lift a hand" (1893).

Each of the many men whose bodies could not be identified also has his own
grave. They all have the same plain statement, a phrase chosen by the writer
Rudyard Kipling (whose only son was killed in action and whose body was only
identified decades later): 'A Soldier of the Great War, Known Unto God'.

Lieutenant Colonel R.C. Ayers confirms that there is little doubt that
Kipling used the 2nd Afghan War as the setting for "The Drums of the Fore
and Aft",

: > : [...]
: > :
: > : > : Rugby players and Australian football players plat without pads
: > : > : because they can.
: > : >
: > : > Cricketers wear pads, baseball players wear gloves. It's the big
softy
: > : > games where armour is worn.
: > :
: > : Right. Rugby and Oz football is where the men all have running
: > : huddles. Try a little separation and running after the catch and see
: > : what happens.
: >
: > You lot huddle around the quarterback trying to sack him and can't run,
: > then out comes a frigging tape measure.
:
: Measure for the first down. Sorry that the game is too complicated for
: you. Yes, some of the rule and penalties are silly but the game has
: pads for a reason. They used to not or looked more like Rubgy players
: until long passes and hard hits started to loosen too many teeth and
: broken bones.
:
Awww... mustn't hurt the poor little darlings.

: > :
: > : >
: > : > > > Your game is for wussies and you've no excuse for time-outs
either,
: > : > > > that's just for TV commercials to make a 90 minute game stretch
: > : > > > to four hours. I'd back the New Zealand All-Blacks against the
: > : > > > Dolphins, Steelers or Browns (or whatever your favourite team)
any
: > day.
: > : > > > No timeouts and no swapping players from offense to defense,
though.
: > : >
: > : > > : By the middle of the game there would not be enough players on
the
: > NZ
: > : > > : team to finish the game.
: > : >
: > : > > That's a simple denial, you scored 1/10, total 2/20. Must try
harder.
: > : >
: > : > > [...]
: > : >
: > : > : Why not get a bunch of Rugby players playing Amercian football and
see
: > : > : what happens.
: > : >
: > : > Told ya, the NZ All-Blacks would wipe out any American softies.
: > : > Those Maories are tough.
: > : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maori
: > : > http://www.allblacks.com/
: > : > The French coach says they are beatable, but he's just blowing
smoke.
: > : >
: > : > You'd have a hard time against the Welsh, too. England... nah.
: > :
: > : In America there is a kid's game that I'm pretty sure is where Rugby
: > : came from. It's called "smear the queer".
: >
: > No, it's called "football".
:
: Soccer? Soccer is not all all like Rugby.
:
: > : Basically, the ball is
: > : thrown straight up and whoever catches gets tackled by every other
: > : player until he is down and can no longer move. Then the ball is
: > : thrown up in the air again and cycle is repeated until everyone is
: > : beat up or until their mums call them home for supper.
: >
: > Yeah, that's the one, the NFL moms call time-out.
:
: Think about this. All the American sports players make too much money.
: Right?

I didn't say that. I said an object or a service is worth what someone
will pay for it. That's true for a ball game or a symphony concert.

Work on this:
You have a stadium with (say) 50,000 seats.
Give the seats away free, no income.
Charge $1000 per seat, only a 1,000 very rich will come to the game.
Income $1,000,000 and 49,000 empty seats.
Charge $50 per seat, you have a packed stadium (or concert hall).
Income $2,500,000.
Charge $100 per seat, you have 30,000 seats taken, 20,000 unoccupied.
Income $3,000,000.
Charge $75 per seat, you have 40,000 seats taken, 10,000 unoccupied.
Income $3,000,000.
What percentage of seats must remain unoccupied to maximize income?

: But if you could make that sort of money you would too, right?

No. I have enough money, I don't want more than need.
I'll take a windfall, sure, but I'm not going to put myself out to
risk a broken leg to make more money than I need.

:
: Baseball has been getting Japanese and hispanic players more and more
: by the year. Basketball has been getting Eastern Europeans and even a
: Chinese player. All these players are good enought to play and want a
: shot at the big bucks.
:
: Where are your great Rugby and Oz footballers in the NFL seeking the
: big bucks rather than the smaller salaries where they are? The only
: conclusion is that they couldn't make it in the NFL. QED.
:
: American football just failed in Europe after 14 years. It will be
: interesting who from there can make it in the NFL. Most will probably
: end up in Canada.

Doesn't matter to me. I don't like ball games anyway.

:
: >
: > : [...]
: > :
: > : > > > : If all was in control during WWII, then why did we bother with
: > coming
: > : > > > : over to Europe in the first place?
: > : >
: > : > > > To hide from the Japanese, of course. That's why my father went
to
: > : > > > Burma to kick arse and save your lot.
: > : >
: > : > > : Burma is a much bigger mess today than it was back in WWII.
Where
: > are
: > : > > : you Brits now?
: > : >
: > : > > I told you, resting on our laurels. We only went to Burma you save
: > your
: > : > > arses, no other reason.
: > : >
: > : > : Right. Well after we saved yours in WWI, you owed us anyway.
: > : >
: > : > That was a stalemate.
: > :
: > : Huh? No, the German Mark was reduced to 10,000 per farthing, thanks to
: > : us.
: >
: > That was thanks to Rothschild. It didn't do you lot much good, you had
: > a depression, got depressed, got drunk, banned booze, then along came
: > Al Capone and got you out of the mess so you stitched him up for income
: > tax instead of being grateful. In the meantime the krauts were building
: > pocket battleships and the Japs were building Zeroes.
: > Uncle Sam...zzzzz... nice baseball cards... zzzzz....
: > "My fellow Americans, we got our arses kicked at Pearl Harbour,
: > a day that will love in infamy, but I've got a Babe Ruth, anyone
: > wanna swap baseball cards?" -- Roosevelt.
:
: And Babe Ruth even went to Japan. And what did those Japs do? Bomb us!

They won. They've got your car and electronics industry sewn up,
now they are putting HDTV on the Moon. You should have backed us
up with Concorde, the next thing you'll see is the Far East taking over
Boeing. The American economy is going DOWN, your biggest attractions
are Disneyland and the wheat in the Mid West and you'll have to hide behind
nukes to keep it, the third world will build their own Disneyland and
baseball stadiums, print their own baseball cards once they have your
wheat. You went to sleep before WWII, you are still asleep today.
North Korea and China are ARMED.

: >
: > : > > > : You act as if you didn't need either the Ruskies or us.
: > : >
: > : > > > The Russkies had the winter to help them, same as they did
: > : > > > when Napoleon tried his luck. We had to kick his arse, too,
: > : >
: > : > > : Seems that was a convenient excuse for losing the War of 1812.
: > : >
: > : > > We won that one too. The Empire took off when good Queen Vicky
: > : > > was on the throne, even if her lover Albert was a kraut.
: > : > > "We are not amused."
: > : >
: > : > : War of 1812, you won? LOL! Yes, UK-centric history is quite alive
and
: > : > : well!
: > : >
: > : > Yeah, we kicked the Mexicans out for ya at the Alamo in Saint
Anthony.
: > :
: > : We lost that battle but womn the war.
: >
: > Battle? BATTLE? Whaddya mean, battle? That wasn't a battle, that was
: > a lover's tiff. Consuela throwing pots and pans at Davey Crockett's
silly
: > hat in a church mission, as if he could cook guacamole in it. You can
piss
: > off a Mexican maid, but insult her cooking with a coonskin hat and she's
: > gonna get really mad.
:
:
: 136 men against Pancho Villa's army? Are you nuts? Didn't you see the
: John Wayne movie about the Alamo?

Poncho Villain be damned, not even Mad Anthony Wayne could stand
against Consuela when you insult her guacamole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Wayne

The Alamo is in San Antonio, named after Anthony Wayne, not John Wayne.
You guys just don't know your own history.

:
: > : > Of course we got there late, 1836, that pissed you off and is why
you
: > : > showed up late for WWII.
: > :
: > : Harbored a 100+ year old grudge did we? What do you think we are,
: > : Serbs?!
: >
: > Nah, it was a just a bad trait you learned from us.
:
: Another, you mean...

Yeah, well, you-all is on our side mostly, but we be restin', you be
akippin'.

: > : > > > while you lot were buying Louisiana to help him out.
: > : > > > You Yanks love war for profit. Seems we picked up that bad
: > : > > > habit from you as well.
: > : >
: > : > > : No, you had it down much before we did. In fact as a British
colony
: > : > > : initially, that is one trait we never have seemed to eradicate.
: > : >
: > : > > Yep. We sold tin to Holy Joe.
: > : >
: > : > > > : > : If that is the case then why bitch about us getting
: > : > > > : > : in so late? "We declared war on Germany after the takeover
of
: > : > > > Poland."
: > : > > > : > : That was 1939. You had three years to get it straight but
took
: > it
: > : > > > in
: > : > > > : > : the arse in 1940 losing the Battle of Britain. You needed
our
: > : > > > help.
: > : > > > : >
: > : > > > : > Needed your help after we'd won?
: > : > > > :
: > : > > > : You won nothing until we defeated Hitler in 1945.
: > : >
: > : > > > The Battle of Britain was won 18 months before you got out of
bed.
: > : >
: > : > > : But why didn't you finish the Nazis off? Couldn't do it...
: > : >
: > : > > So you could make a profit. You Yanks love war for profit.
: > : >
: > : > : It is a trait we learned and perfected from you.
: > : >
: > : > Yeah, we never did perfect it. Seemed a good idea, though.
: > :
: > : I dunno, with nukes and all in the world, I think it sort of a silly
: > : way to try and make money.
: >
: > Don't try to steal Consuela's guacamole recipe at the Alamo, then.
:
: Note that San Antonio (beautiful city, BTW) is in the US not Mexico.
: So the recipe is ours by default!

There you go, see. You'll make Consuela mad again, have to send in
Mad Anthony Wayne, she'll send Poncho Villain to kick John
Wayne's arse and then we'll have to rescue you all over again
or Texas will become New New Mexico and you offered it to us
when we really wanted Alaska. Leave the guacamole alone.

: > : >
: > : > > > : If anything Hitler
: > : > > > : started falling apart
: > : > > > : after making the same mistake Napoleon did in Russia.
: > : >
: > : > > > Yeah, but it took Wellington and Nelson to finish off Nappy and
: > : > > > you lot got Louisiana out of it. Can't trust the Frogs, the
Krauts
: > : > > > or the Russkies.
: > : >
: > : > > : Only Israel...
: > : >
: > : > > You can trust that lot to start a war... its been that way since
the
: > walls
: > : > > of Jericho came tumbling down by blowing a trumpet at 'em and it's
: > : > > STILL going on. They'll kill every living thing, they are the
chosen.
: > : > > Those bastards even stopped the sun moving, or if Copernicus
: > : > > was right, the world from turning.
: > : > > That was before inertia was discovered.
: > : > > Mind you, if the world did stop turning the walls would come
: > : > > tumbling down.
: > : >
: > : > : War for profit has to have funds and banking. The Rothschilds are
the
: > : > : example.
: > : >
: > : > There ya go, the German Jews perfected it.
: > :
: > : With banks in London and elsewhere.
: >
: >
: >
: > : > > > : > That's a joke. It was your lot
: > : > > > : > that took it in the arse at Pearl Harbour and it took you
four
: > years
: > : > > > : > with our help to get it straight, even then you had to use
nukes
: > : > > > : > on a civilian population. That's why the rest of the world
hates
: > : > > > you,
: > : > > > : > it wasn't a fair fight.
: > : > > > :
: > : > > > : The Brits would have used nukes if they were a superpower. But
: > that
: > : > > > : was a different century.
: > : >
: > : > > > We are a superpower.
: > : >
: > : > > : ...in your own minds.
: > : >
: > : > > A miserable 13/40.
: > : >
: > : > : Your a superpower
: > : >
: > : > Yep
: > :
: > : Okay, mate... teehee
: > :
: > : >
: > : > > > So is France, India, Pakistan, Israel, Russia
: > : > > > and North Korea. Only the Yanks have ever USED nukes.
: > : >
: > : > > : Somebody had to do it to show the world how bad they are.
: > : >
: > : > > And you ARE bad.
: > : >
: > : > ...to the bone! My apologies to George Thorogood. :)
: > : >
: > : > Yep.
: > : >
: > : > > : You should be bragging about your use of the Enigma machine
during
: > : > > WWII.
: > : >
: > : > > We didn't use it. We only decoded it and built computers to do it
for
: > us.
: > : > > Alan Turing worked at Bletchley Park and devised the modern
computer.
: > : >
: > : > : Yes, yes of course he did. You are aware that a Turing Machine is
a
: > : > : concept and not a piece of hardware, right?
: > : >
: > : > I'm sure Bill Gates is aware of it. Microsoft produces an awful lot
of
: > : > expensive concept.
: > :
: > : Don't get me started on Microsoft and Gates. I met the man once way
: > : back in the early 80s, before he became a bazillionaire,
: >
: > With banks in London and elsewhere,
: >
: > : at a computer
: > : show where we both worked. What a self-important prick he was back
: > : then. Didn't look a day over 14 years old even though he was 22 or
: > : something. I do understand he's changed with his foundations and
: > : philantropy though. Anyway, I am no fan of Windoze. I prefer Unix.
: >
: > He has more baseball cards than you and they are worth more if he spits
: > on them. If you want to go in for name-dropping of self important pricks
: > I offered to buy Stephen Hawking a pint at Sussex U. 30 years ago.
: > He can't be English, his wife declined and pushed his gurney away.
: > That's pussy-whipped AND aleless.
:
: Hawking is unique. I mean its not like he was going to play a game of
: darts afterward, right?

I don't think the bar at Sussex U. had a dart board. Brighton
has more queers than San Francisco anyway. That prat Georgey III
that cost us the colonies had his summer holiday farmhouse down there.
His son Georgey IV did a bit of remodelling.
http://www.royalpavilion.org.uk/palace/the_palace.asp
Not quite as plain as the White House, but it is white.

: > : >
: > : > : Chek this link for computer
: > timeline:http://inventors.about.com/library/blcoindex.htm
: > : >
: > : > : Turing as great as he was was not the first computer pioneer.
EDSAC
: > : > : (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDSAC) was your first real computer.
: > : >
: > : > Charles Babbage was way before that.
: > : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage
: > :
: > : That differential engine didn't work! And Ada Lovelace was probably
: > : more like Linda Lovelace.
: >
: > Nor did EDSAC.
: > Life of a vacuum tube, 5,000 hours.
: > Life of 5,000 vacuum tubes, 1 hour.
: > They have a team of Polish light-bulb changers working 24/7 just
: > at Cobo Hall in Detroit, I've seen 'em. I didn't count the light-bulbs,
: > though.
: >
: > "EDSAC ran its first programs on May 6, 1949, calculating a table of
: > squares[1] and a list of prime numbers."
: >
: > You call that a computer?
:
: Back in that day, yes.
:
: > Babbage's design was for differential equations.
:
: A design is not a computer.

"In 1991 a perfectly functioning difference engine was constructed from
Babbage's original plans."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage

: Hell I can design a time machine too.

John Harrison beat you to it.
http://www.solarnavigator.net/history/john_harrison.htm
And that was BEFORE Babbage, too, AND it worked.

: > : [...]
: > :
: > : > > > Not too many Jews in England, mate.
: > : >
: > : > > : That you know of. Only the rich ones that come and go without
large
: > : > > : notcie.
: > : >
: > : > > We are tolerant.
: > : >
: > : > : ...of the Irish. LOL!!!!!
: > : >
: > : > Yeah, where you need Poles to change light-bulbs today we used the
Irish
: > to
: > : > dig canals for the industrial revolution. After that you needed NY
cops.
: > : >
: > :
: > : ...due to a famine. Why do I get the impression that Ireland is the
: > : Texas of the UK?
: >
: > Eire isn't part of the UK. Northern Ireland is. Eire is part of the EEC,
: > though. If Texas were trying to steal 6 counties from New Mexico
: > you'd have a correct analogy.
:
: Yes, I just checked the map. Northern Ireland from the small island,
: not Douglas the tiny island and Scotland, Wales and England from the
: big island.

Something wrong with your map. Douglas is a town on the Isle of Man,
home of the Manx cat. Not the island itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_(cat)

Don't forget the Orkneys, the Shetlands, the Scillies, the Channel Islands
(Jersey and Guernsey)...
Why did New Jersey get all the toxic waste dumps and California
get all the lawyers?
(answer at bottom of post)

: With that sort of island living no wonder your lot wanted to own all
: of the Caribean. :)

We are an island nation. At one time we had Malta, Cyprus, Hong Kong,
Australia... the frigging Maoris in New Zealand were just too good at
rugger for us to keep it, and your lot are too soft to play. We have
to bail you out when you insult Consuela's guacamole.

:
: > : Texans have an interesting belief. It goes something like this:
: > :
: > : Texas first, to hell with the rest of the US.
: > : US first, to hell with the rest of the world.
: > :
: > : I think it will take an alien invasion to get them to think "one
: > : world".
: > : Also, it works backwards to their counties, towns, streets and
: > : families. Ah, I forgot self.
: > :
: > : [...]
: > :
: > : > > : England appears to be fairyl similar from one place to another.
At
: > : > > : least you don't see buttes and mesa like in the desert SW.
Contrast
: > : > > : the 4 corners of the US, now add Alaska and Hawaii. England
looks
: > like
: > : > > : about maybe 10 - 15 of our states but no where near 50.
: > : >
: > : > > Ya wanna live on a butte or mesa in a desert? Strange.
: > : >
: > : > : No, no, no. Just want to climb them. No water on their tops, silly
: > : > : man.
: > : >
: > : > Oh sure, Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water...
: > : > Sounds pretty daft to me.
: > : >
: > :
: > : I see that you have never hiked the Grand Canyon.
: >
: > I flew over it on my way from PIT to LAX. Looked like a deep hole in
: > the ground with water at the bottom to me. Jack and Jill should have
: > gone down the hill to fetch a pail of water, at least they might have
: > found a waste tip with some baseball cards lying around.
:
: Ironic that so many British people go there yet you scoff as if it
: were a wasteland.
:
Me? Ironic? Never...
I just take the piss. The Brits laugh at themselves, didn't you ever
see Monty Python?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w
Or the Two Ronnies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MadRUqMvm9c

: >
: > : Well the last time
: > : that I did I ran into about 50 of your countrymen on a guided hike.
: > : They certianly weren't as rugged and ready as the few Germans I
: > : found. :)
: >
: > I told ya, the krauts are formidable. We still whopped them in
: > two world wars and the World Cup Final in 1966, though.
: > http://www.the-english-football-archive.com/england/world_cup/1966.htm
:
: You needed help with everything except the 40+ year old World Cup.

Sure, but you show up late.

: > : There is an old Indian saying, "never judge a man until you have
: > : walked a mile in his moccasins". Go walk a mile or six in the Grand
: > : Canyon and then tell me how silly and daft it is.
: > :
: >
: > There is a new English saying, "never judge a moccasin until you have
: > ridden a skateboard in a pair of Reeboks".
: > http://www.rbk.com/rbklaunch.aspx?country=us
:
: Reeboks? Are they the cheaper version of Nikes which are a cheaper
: version of Adidas?

Yeah... of course. See
You have a stadium with (say) 50,000 seats.
Give the seats away free, no income.
Charge $1000 per seat, only a 1,000 very rich will come to the game.
Income $1,000,000 and 49,000 empty seats.
Charge $50 per seat, you have a packed stadium (or concert hall).
Income $2,500,000.
Charge $100 per seat, you have 30,000 seats taken, 20,000 unoccupied.
Income $3,000,000.
Charge $75 per seat, you have 40,000 seats taken, 10,000 unoccupied.
Income $3,000,000.
What percentage of seats must remain unoccupied to maximize income?

Now apply that to the selling price of Reeboks.

:> : [...]
: > :
: > : > > : There is nothing in England like the US National Parks.
: > : >
: > : > > Oh yes there is. Try the Lake District, and then we have Scotland
: > : > > and Wales right next door.
: > : >
: > : > : So. We have Canada and Mexico right next door and they are worlds
: > : > : apart.
: > : >
: > : > The Canucks are just like Yanks. Nice country, too. Mexico... never
: > : > been there, never wanted too.
: > :
: > : Cancun, Mexico is a great place! The water is the best in the world or
: > : at least as good as anywhere else. Aqau blue color. Absolutely
: > : beatiful. I even had a pint at the local with one of your blokes who
: > : also loved Cancun.
: >
: > I lived in Florida for a couple of years but avoided Miami...
:
: Florida is a great place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. I
: have heard too many retired people that became disillusioned with
: Florida. My mothr used to live there and hated it. She now lives in
: Arkansas and loves it. Many of her local friends in Ark are Florida
: transplants.
:

So am I, now I'm retired in England. What I enjoyed most in Florida is
clear skies. Seriously.
You do realise this newsgroup is
sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary,sci.space.history?

: > :
: > : > > : Try and
: > : > > : compare the Cliffs of Dover with the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone
Park
: > or
: > : > > : Yosemite.
: > : >
: > : > > : Cliffs of Dover. 350 feet high?!? I stood in a place in the
Grand
: > : > > : Canyon where I could look straight up at 4400 ft above SL and
see
: > the
: > : > > : top of a temple that was at 7200 ft. 2800 ft!!!
: > : > > : That is 8 Cliffs of Dover!!!! Eight stacked!!
: > : >
: > : > > If you can see the top of Ben Nevis it's gonna rain.
: > : > > If you can't, it is...
: > : >
: > : > > What you don't have is anything like this:
: > : > > http://www.invectis.co.uk/wakeh/wakeh.html
: > : >
: > : > : Yes, we do. In fact, we have private residences that look like
that
: > : > : all across the eastern US. Start with Middleburg, Virginia (horse
: > : > : country) and go either north to Boston and south to New Orleans
for
: > : > : literally 100s of places that you just like the one you sent me.
: > : >
: > : > You don't have climate for it. If you are a vegetable England is the
: > great
: > : > place to live. The grass is always green here because it's always
: > pissing
: > : > down with rain.
: > :
: > : Well we could use that here in Maryland right now. When one thinks
: > : England one doesn't think 'beach' despite all the coastline. Sort of
: > : like Northern California in that regard.
: >
: > I liked Deep Creek (or "Dip Crick" as they called it in Pitts) but it
: > still lacked the colours of England. Otherwise Maryland's countryside
: > and hills is very English-like. I did a little fishing there. English
: > beaches are fine 3 weeks a year when the sun shines.
: > http://tinyurl.com/2x568c
: > Lotta sand, but those kids are clothed.
:
: Like virtually all Maryland lakes, Deep Creek is man made. I have
: never been there. Though I have gone white water rafting on the
: Youghogeny(sic) River and skiing at 7 Springs.

You mean (sp), not (sic).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youghiogheny_River

The Yough runs into the Monongahela, that meets the Allegheny
at Pittsburgh and becomes the Ohio which then meets the mighty
Mississippi.

: > : > : We may have less time here but the trees have been here longer.
You
: > : > : don't have tulip trees and we do. :)
: > : >
: > :
: > : [...]
: > :
: > : > > : Speaking of drug runners, didn't the Windsors make their money
in
: > : > > : opium like the Bushes did in oil?
: > : >
: > : > > The House of Windsor came into being in 1917, when the name was
: > adopted as
: > : > > the British Royal Family's official name by a proclamation of King
: > George
: > : > > V,
: > : > > replacing the historic name of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. It remains the
: > family
: > : > > name
: > : > > of the current Royal Family.
: > : > > By virtue of Queen Victoria's marriage to Prince Albert, son of
Duke
: > Ernst
: > : > > I
: > : > > of the small German duchy of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, her
descendants
: > were
: > : > > members of the ducal family of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha with the
house
: > name
: > : > > of
: > : > > Wettin. Victoria's son Edward VII and his son George V reigned as
: > members
: > : > > of
: > : > > this house. However, high anti-German feeling among the people
during
: > : > > World
: > : > > War I prompted the Royal Family to abandon all titles held under
the
: > : > > German
: > : > > crown and to change German-sounding titles and house names for
: > : > > English-sounding versions. On 17 July, 1917, a royal proclamation
by
: > : > > George
: > : > > V provided that all agnatic descendants of Queen Victoria would be
: > members
: > : > > of the House of Windsor with the personal surname of Windsor. The
name
: > : > > Windsor has a long association with English royalty through the
town
: > of
: > : > > Windsor and Windsor Castle.
: > : >
: > : > : That still doesn't explain why Diana died while in the vehicle
with
: > : > : her Egyptian boyfriend.
: > : >
: > : > I expect it was because she was in a wreck. Maybe the driver was
: > : > a moslem... but he survived.
: > :
: > : He was drunk, that is all I recall.
: >
: > Baloney. That's the kind of crap the paparazzi put about because they
: > were the cause of the crash. Freedom of the press belongs to those that
: > own one.
:
: The driver was NOT drunk? Didn't they do a blood/alcohol test on him?
:
: > : > > > : > : Those Pakistanis are better at cricket than the average
Brits,
: > : > > > too,
: > : > > > : > : right? I saw a Pakistani cricket match in Washington DC a
few
: > : > > > years
: > : > > > : > : back.
: > : > > > : >
: > : > > > : > Just about everyone is better than the average Brit in most
: > games,
: > : > > > we
: > : > > > : > only excell when we are not resting on our laurels and
really
: > need
: > : > > > to,
: > : > > > : > like helping Yanks to have light-bulbs with Poles to turn
them.
: > If
: > : > > > : > you had any sense you'd switch to a bayonet type then you
: > wouldn't
: > : > > > : > need Czechs to replace Poles and we wouldn't have had to
fight
: > : > > > Hitler
: > : > > > : > for you.
: > : > > > :
: > : > > > : It took us and the Ruskies to defeat Hitler. You would have
never
: > : > > > : succeeded alone.
: > : >
: > : > > > Course we would, it just would have taken longer. Pity it took
: > : > > > the Japanese to give you a wake-up call.
: > : >
: > : > > : And all this time I was told we went in to prevent Hitler from
: > killing
: > : > > : all the Jews.
: > : >
: > : > > YOU went in to save the Jews, we went to save the Poles so
: > : > > they could change light-bulbs for you because you didn't have
: > : > > bayonet fittings. You were only worried about your bagels anyway.
: > : >
: > : > : and lox.
: > : >
: > : > Liquid oxygen never quite did it for me, I still prefer scones and
: > : > strawberry
: > : > jam or an American muffin.
: > :
: > : Smoked salmon is lox.
: >
: > Smoked fish is kippers. Liquid oxygen is lox.
:
: Kippers are smoked sardines. Salmon is real fish.

No, kippers are smoked herring.
No problem with Scottish salmon, though.

:
: > : [...]
: > :
: > : > > : But they speak French in Canada. Surely you can't "have"
anything
: > : > > : where they speak French?
: > : >
: > : > > Quebec's not *IN* Canada, its just owned BY Canada.
: > : >
: > : > : Who knew?!?
: > : >
: > : > Certainly not the French.
: > :
: > : Yes, picture a man standing with his hands up in the air. That is a
: > : French soldier training for WWIII.
: > :
: > Right on.

New Jersey had first choice.
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