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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 9, 2008 23:08
Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> According to Michael Mumma in a PBS NOVA show, Comets contain twice as
> much heavy water
> as does water on Earth and so comets should not be the source of
> Earth's water.
>
> But let me apply some...
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 9, 2008 23:44
Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
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> So it seems we have two big questions to ask:
> (1) water created in the Sun, can it be ejected outwards from the Sun?
> (2) and this ejected water that is not trapped by Earth or
> other planets but makes its way to the Oort Cloud, can that ice
> reformulate
> out there in the Oort Cloud so that it becomes a Cometary ice ball?
To be a good scientist means that you are forever asking more
questions than
ever getting any answers.
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 10, 2008 13:46
I had a look as to the status of our knowledge of Europa's water and
it seems as though most firmly believe it
is a vast ocean on Europa. I am not going to argue with that concensus
but accept it.
However, I am going to have to find out how much water the other
satellites of the gas giants have. For if
my theory is correct that water is transported from the Sun via solar
radiation and accumulates wherever
there is a "trap for water" is where it accumulates in our Solar
System.
Now I cannot say that Europa has a trap like Earth has its
Magnetosphere. But perhaps ice covered
is a trap in itself.
The rings of Saturn are ice pieces and so the origin of them as Solar
thrust water by solar radiation, solar
winds is a good explanation for the origin of Saturn's Rings.
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Author: Archimedes PlutoniumArchimedes Plutonium Date: Apr 10, 2008 14:17
To prove this new theory of mine of how Earth collected most of its
water and how Europa got its water and how Saturn got its icy rings
and how Comets gain their watery content.
Simple to prove whether this theory is true or not true. Simple because
all it requires is the recognition that a water molecule can ride on
the wavetrain of solar radiation or solar winds.
And if the Asteroid Zone is a spherical zone, then its diameter is
the diameter that iron particles can ride a wavetrain of solar
radiation and solar winds.
That would explain why all the geologists and astronomers and physicists
get a 4.5 to 5 billion year age reckoning of the Solar System, because
the Sun existed 10 billion years ago and had to spend 5 billion years
growing via Dirac Radioactivities before it started to spew enough
matter out to the Asteroid Zone.
So to get a accurate measure of the age of our Solar System we cannot
count on Asteroid material for it only begin to come into existence
when the Sun was already 5 billion years older.
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 10, 2008 14:36
So why would water be the best riders of solar radiation? I suppose
the mass of iron allows it to ride out to
about the zone of Mars and Jupiter. But why would H2O be such a good
rider that it can ride out to the
outer boundary of the Oort Cloud?
Perhaps it is not the best rider but that the outer boundary of the
Oort Cloud is concentrated with lithium,
beryllium and boron which is anomolous in our current understanding.
Perhaps there is a concentration of
the lightest elements in the Cosmos at a Oort Cloud distance from a
repective star. So that if anyone
checked the Oort Cloud boundary would find a concentration of lithium,
beryllium and boron and the
same with all the stars in the Universe in that there never was a
deficiency of these light elements but
that they were scooted and transported outward from their stars.
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 10, 2008 23:13
Now I was wondering if there was an analogy to water riding the
wavetrain of solar radiation and solar winds? Whether
we have a common ordinary day experience of water riding a wavetrain
of radiation. Now I am sure physicists
would not describe it as "riding a wavetrain of radiation" and would
call it something more arcane. Perhaps
called it impelled motion. But I am not worried about a proper physics
name for this phenomenon or mechanism
that could possibly answer how Earth got so much water and how the
Asteroids and Comets and Saturn's
Rings and the water of most satellites was formed. So if this
phenomenon or mechanism of Impelled Motion
on Sun's water or Sun's matter is the origin of so many important
features of our Solar System, could this
phenomenon be obvious and apparent in our everyday...
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 10, 2008 23:33
Now my theory of water and other molecules and elements riding
wavetrains of solar radiation and explaining the
origin of Comets and Asteroids may run into some steep difficulty with
the fact that the Asteroid Belt and
Kuiper Belt run fairly close with the Ecliptic Plane. So we cannot say
that solar radiation is strictly confined
to the Ecliptic Plane. We would think solar radiation has a emission
that is spherical and not favoring a
simple plane. The Oort Cloud is spherical and so we have no trouble
with a solar origin. But with the
Asteroids confined to mostly the Ecliptic Plane we run into this
difficulty. Can we say that heavy elements
and molecules are impelled from the Sun strictly in the Ecliptic? No,
that sounds ad hoc. I would think that
iron atoms would be impelled with equal probablity from the Sun in all
directions and not confined to
the ecliptic, but I maybe wrong on that. It maybe the case that the
Ecliptic Plane of the Sun favors
impelled matter from the Sun. Maybe Solar radiation and the Solar
Winds favor the Ecliptic Plane and ...
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:50
Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Now my theory of water and other molecules and elements riding
> wavetrains of solar radiation and explaining the
> origin of Comets and Asteroids may run into some steep difficulty with
> the fact that the Asteroid Belt and
> Kuiper Belt run fairly close with the Ecliptic Plane. So we cannot say
> that solar radiation is strictly confined
> to the Ecliptic Plane. We would think solar radiation has a emission
> that is spherical and not favoring a
> simple plane. The Oort Cloud is spherical and so we have no trouble
> with a solar origin. But with the
> Asteroids confined to mostly the Ecliptic Plane we run into this
> difficulty. Can we say that heavy elements
> and molecules are impelled from the Sun strictly in the Ecliptic? No,
> that sounds ad hoc. I would think that
> iron atoms would be impelled with equal probablity from the Sun in all
> directions and not confined to
> the ecliptic, but I maybe wrong on that. It maybe the case that the
> Ecliptic Plane of the Sun favors
> impelled matter from the Sun. Maybe Solar radiation and the Solar ...
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 11, 2008 15:31
Let me backpedal a little here as I seem to have plunged forward way
too much, and resulting in speculation
more than a thoughtful pacing forward progress.
Saturn Ring structure is spaced as Saturn then D ring then C ring then
B ring then A ring
where the B is the most dense and the A is second most dense.
Now here we can see a close comparison of the Sun with Mercury Venus
Earth and Mars.
Earth is the most dense and if we say that Saturn and its Rings of D,
C, B, A are to the
Sun as Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars.
So in other words, all the underlying mathematics of gravity of Sun,
Mercury Venus Earth and Mars
is the same underlying mathematics of orbital mechanics that Saturn is
with its D, C, B, and A rings.
Where we can say the mathematics of orbital mechanics of gravity for
the B ring of Saturn is the
same mathematics as Earth with the Sun.
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Author: plutonium.archimedesplutonium.archimedes Date: Apr 11, 2008 22:13
The theory that solar radiation impelled water molecules from the Sun
to travel out to Saturn and become
part of the Saturn Ring, likewise the origin of the ice for Comets is
a good theory. As well as the oversupply
of water on Earth. Given the data, also that the rings of Saturn are
relatively new since not contaminated by
meteorite dusts. So this theory of water created in the Sun by Dirac
Radioactivities and then impelled motion
of that water outwards from the Sun by solar radiation is a good
theory for the spreading of water in our
Solar System.
So where is the theoretical problem?
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