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Re: Attention: David Carl PChristiansen         


Author: David
Date: Sep 21, 2007 22:33

On Sep 21, 7:37 pm, Tom McDonald gspammail.com> wrote:
>...
> I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea that Jesus was
> resuscitated and lived on after Good Friday. But I am intensely
> skeptical of such a convoluted process, which appears to have
> been cooked up merely to address the question of the 100# of stuff.
>...

Please study in full -

Re: Squeezed between the wrists
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/2234

Answers to questions
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/2747
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Re: Attention: David Carl PChristiansen         


Author: Ian
Date: Sep 21, 2007 23:42

On 22 Sep, 06:33, David yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 7:37 pm, Tom McDonald gspammail.com> wrote:
>
>>...
>> I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea that Jesus was
>> resuscitated and lived on after Good Friday. But I am intensely
>> skeptical of such a convoluted process, which appears to have
>> been cooked up merely to address the question of the 100# of stuff.
> Answers to questions

And here is Thiering's utterly bizarre reply:

"Jesus' supporters had supplied the medicines for use by the physician
Simon. They could not supply the juice alone, as Simon could not
handle a cup."

He could not handle a cup, you see, but he could pick up a hundred
pounds of aloe leave and squeeze them hard enough to get the juice out
while holding them precisely in position.

Ian
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Re: Attention: David Carl PChristiansen         


Author: Tom McDonald
Date: Sep 22, 2007 06:52

Ian wrote:
> On 22 Sep, 06:33, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 7:37 pm, Tom McDonald gspammail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea that Jesus was
>>> resuscitated and lived on after Good Friday. But I am intensely
>>> skeptical of such a convoluted process, which appears to have
>>> been cooked up merely to address the question of the 100# of stuff.
>
>> Answers to questions
>
>
> And here is Thiering's utterly bizarre reply:
>
> "Jesus' supporters had supplied the medicines for use by the physician
> Simon. They could not supply the juice alone, as Simon could not
> handle a cup."
> ...
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Only an idiot would believe the 'squeezed between the wrists' tale.         


Author: Engineer
Date: Sep 22, 2007 06:58

Wow. I am shocked -- shocked I tell you -- to see David
Carl Christainsen referencing a web page that he says
supports his assertion but which actually refutes it.
Just like he did the last dozen times. What a shocker.
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Re: Attention: David Carl PChristiansen         


Author: David
Date: Sep 23, 2007 14:38

On Sep 22, 9:52 am, Tom McDonald gspammail.com> wrote:
> Ian wrote:
>> On 22 Sep, 06:33, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 21, 7:37 pm, Tom McDonald gspammail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> ...
>>>> I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea that Jesus was
>>>> resuscitated and lived on after Good Friday. But I am intensely
>>>> skeptical of such a convoluted process, which appears to have
>>>> been cooked up merely to address the question of the 100# of stuff.
>
>>> Answers to questions
>
>
>> And here is Thiering's utterly bizarre reply:
>
>> "Jesus' supporters had supplied the medicines for use by the physician
>> Simon. They could not supply the juice alone, as Simon could not
>> handle a cup." ...
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Engineer is firing away half-cocked...         


Author: David
Date: Sep 23, 2007 14:47

On Sep 22, 9:58 am, Engineer example.com> wrote:
>...
> One can only wonder how it is that this pesher method has
> Simon on his back one time and sitting another time. If
> Brabara Thiering really can find hidden messages, why
> don't the hidden messages stay the same? Perhaps because
> she makes this stuff up as she goes along?

The pesher method, the Thiering methodology takes literally years
to understand completely.

Why would Engineer fire away on the NGs before studying Dr.
Thiering's books and her brilliant, scholarly articles?

There's one in particular that I have characterized as the GATEWAY.

Engineer or anybody else is free to request Yowie of SRQ
(soc.religion.quaker)
to forward a copy to you by email -

"The Three and a Half Years of Elijah",
Novum Testamentum 23,1, 1981, pp.41-55.

P.S.
Engineer rushes into print way too often.
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Re: Attention: David Carl PChristiansen         


Author: Ian
Date: Sep 23, 2007 15:01

On 23 Sep, 22:38, David yahoo.com> wrote:
> The nails went thru Jesus's palms, not wrists. The Thiering
> explanation for this detail is that his body had a small support
> for the buttocks; his body was NOT hanging free from the palms.

Any evidence for that? Or is just required to make the theory work?
> The detail I bring forward is available by clever sleuthing
> on the Qumran and The Early Christian Church yahoo forum or
> the Pesher of Christ website.

It's not "sleuthing". That implies detective work, deduction,
discovering and interpreting evidence and so on. All you want us to do
is search through a mass of badly written, unedited stuff for stuff
which you intend that we should accept as uncritically as you do.
> I don't see why I have to get involved on the NGs about it.

Because you bring it up and promise to answer any questions. Alas that
promise seems to be worth very little.

Ian
You get involved
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Re: Engineer is firing away half-cocked...         


Author: Ian
Date: Sep 23, 2007 15:03

On 23 Sep, 22:47, David yahoo.com> wrote:
> The pesher method, the Thiering methodology takes literally years
> to understand completely.

Do you understand it completely?

Ian
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Re: Attention: David Carl PChristiansen         


Author: Tom McDonald
Date: Sep 23, 2007 15:16

On Sep 23, 5:01 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 23 Sep, 22:38, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The nails went thru Jesus's palms, not wrists. The Thiering
>> explanation for this detail is that his body had a small support
>> for the buttocks; his body was NOT hanging free from the palms.
>
> Any evidence for that? Or is just required to make the theory work?

And the question was not where the nails in Jesus' upper extremities
were, but where they were in the purported Simon Magus--who does
appear to be in the story because it works (better?) that way.

By the time of Christ, the Romans had a lot of experience crucifying
folk. Caesar's pay-back of the pirates who'd captured him (albeit he
did show some mercy there), and the fighters in the slave revolt by
Spartacus come to mind.
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Re: Attention: David Carl PChristiansen         


Author: Whiskers
Date: Sep 23, 2007 15:08

On 2007-09-23, David yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 9:52 am, Tom McDonald gspammail.com> wrote:
>> Ian wrote:
>>> On 22 Sep, 06:33, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 21, 7:37 pm, Tom McDonald gspammail.com> wrote:

[...]
> I don't see why I have to get involved on the NGs about it.

[...]

I don't think anyone else does either.

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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