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Author: WhiskersWhiskers Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:39
On 2007-09-18, David yahoo.com> wrote:> On Sep 18, 3:32 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:>> On 18 Sep, 18:39, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 18, 1:12 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:>>>> Why will you not answer?
>>> Because I am tired.
>>
>>> Do you have any idea the immense amount of work it takes to master
>>> Thiering
>>> when, as Yowie says, society gives you NOTHING back for it?
>>
>> You said any reasonably bright schoolboy could master it. You've got
>> years of study. Surely you've thought about the points she raises?
>> They are all rather obvious, aren't they?
>>
>> Answer the questions.
>>
>> Ian
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Author: IanIan Date: Sep 18, 2007 15:36
On 18 Sep, 20:49, David yahoo.com> wrote:> On Sep 18, 3:32 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:>> You said any reasonably bright schoolboy could master it. You've got
>> years of study. Surely you've thought about the points [Yowie] raises?
>> They are all rather obvious, aren't they?
>
>> Answer the questions.
> No, they are not all obvious at all. You forget that Dr. Thiering was
> Professor of Religious Studies IN THE BROAD SENSE.
The answers certainly aren't obvious. The questions, however, are
extremely obvious. A crucified man is supposed to have crushed a huge
quantity of tough plants between his wrists (although the nails would
have gone through there) in order to produce drug which was then fed
to an unconscious man to purge him of a sedative which had also been
taken by the man doing the crushing? Can't you spot the areas there
that might be thought to need clarification.
And what on earth does "Professor or Religious Studies IN THE BROAD
SENSE" mean? Are you saying that she can't be blamed for not knowing
about the mechanics of crucifixion or the details of processing aloe?
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Author: DavidDavid Date: Sep 18, 2007 18:03
On Sep 18, 5:39 pm, Whiskers operamail.com> wrote:> On 2007-09-18, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>...>> For example, see if you agree with me that the following article
>> shows great depth and maturity for the topic on which it deals -
>
>
> It doesn't answer the question she was asked. Ritual is not the same
> thing as spiritual. I can't see any depth at all in it - but it is
> a relatively coherent block of text compared with some of the things she
> posted to that forum.
>
> --
> -- ^^^^^^^^^^
> -- Whiskers
>...
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Author: DavidDavid Date: Sep 18, 2007 18:58
On Sep 18, 6:36 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:> On 18 Sep, 20:49, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 18, 3:32 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:>>> You said any reasonably bright schoolboy could master it. You've got
>>> years of study. Surely you've thought about the points [Yowie] raises?
>>> They are all rather obvious, aren't they?
>
>>> Answer the questions.
>> No, they are not all obvious at all. You forget that Dr. Thiering was
>> Professor of Religious Studies IN THE BROAD SENSE.
>
> The answers certainly aren't obvious. The questions, however, are
> extremely obvious. A crucified man is supposed to have crushed a huge
> quantity of tough plants between his wrists (although the nails would
> have gone through there) in order to produce...
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Author: IanIan Date: Sep 19, 2007 00:56
On 19 Sep, 02:58, David yahoo.com> wrote:> On Sep 18, 6:36 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:>> The answers certainly aren't obvious. The questions, however, are
>> extremely obvious.
> The best way, hands down, for Ian to get the clarification he seeks is
> to study -
>
> The Book That Jesus Wrote - John's Gospel (Transworld Doubleday 1998,
> ISBN 0-552-14665-X)
You have claimed to be an authority in this field and publically
promised to answer Yowie's questions.
> The fact that his [Simon's] hands had been pierced by the nails need
> not fully incapacitate
> the muscles of his wrists and forearms.
Though the fact that it would have been his wrists, not his hands,
which were pierced by the nails makes that point a bit weaker, don't
you think?
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Author: Doug WellerDoug Weller Date: Sep 19, 2007 21:41
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:39:37 +0100, in sci.archaeology, Whiskers wrote:
>On 2007-09-18, David yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Sep 18, 3:32 pm, Ian btinternet.com> wrote:>>> On 18 Sep, 18:39, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 1...
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Date: Sep 20, 2007 00:13
"Doug Weller" wrote...
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:39:37 +0100, in sci.archaeology, Whiskers wrote:
>>On 2007-09-18, David yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> [...] You forget that Dr. Thiering was
>>> Professor of Religious Studies IN THE BROAD SENSE.
>>
>>VERY broad sense: according to the 'unofficial' pro-Thiering
>>< http://www.thiering.net/> she
>>
>> Commenced lecturing in 1967 on the Old Testament, Hebrew, and Feminist
>> Theology at Sydney University, New South Wales, Australia
>>
>>and that's all; not a professor, exactly.
wait a minute... all this fuss is over someone who lectured on religion...
who is not even a professor? and who is not even in the field of
archaeology?!?! egads! i am sorely disappointed at the lack of academic
acountability here. may as well listen to a politician talk about climatic
changes over time...
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Author: Tom McDonaldTom McDonald Date: Sep 20, 2007 06:26
On Sep 20, 2:13 am, "Tedd Jacobs" mail.boisestate.edu>
wrote:> "Doug Weller" wrote...
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:39:37 +0100, in sci.archaeology, Whiskers wrote:
>>>On 2007-09-18, David yahoo.com> wrote:>
>
>
>>>> [...] You forget that Dr. Thiering was
>>>> Professor of Religious Studies IN THE BROAD SENSE.
>
>
>>> Commenced lecturing in 1967 on the Old Testament, Hebrew, and Feminist
>>> Theology at Sydney University, New South Wales, Australia
>
>>>and that's all; not a professor, exactly.
>
> wait a minute... all this fuss is over someone who lectured on religion... ...
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Author: DavidDavid Date: Sep 20, 2007 06:48
On Sep 20, 9:26 am, Tom McDonald gmail.com> wrote:> On Sep 20, 2:13 am, "Tedd Jacobs" mail.boisestate.edu>
> wrote:
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>
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>>> "Doug Weller" wrote...
>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:39:37 +0100, in sci.archaeology, Whiskers wrote:
>>>>On 2007-09-18, David yahoo.com> wrote:>
>>
>
>>>>> [...] You forget that Dr. Thiering was
>>>>> Professor of Religious Studies IN THE BROAD SENSE.
>
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Author: Tom McDonaldTom McDonald Date: Sep 21, 2007 16:37
Yowie wrote:
> " Although his hands also had been
> nailed to the cross, so that he could not have handled a cup
> of the juice, he was able to squeeze the leaves with his wrists,
> letting the thick honey-like substance slide down Jesus' throat.
> Within a few hours the purgative worked, and Jesus recovered
> consciousness."
Wait. I just re-read this.
Holy Moley! She actually wrote that?
This paragon of scholarship of all things biblical and historical
thinks that Roman crucifixion using nails, nailed through the
*hands*?!?
This has been shown to be wrong for, AFAIR, decades now. The
nails would have gone through the wrists, not the palms of the hands.
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