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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: kenney
Date: Jan 27, 2007 11:44

In article <7yIuh.30471$E02.12231@newsb.telia.net>,
noninger_@telia.com (Inger E\(NorahD\)) wrote:
> Do you mean that builders using inch aren't as exact?
> If so why and since when?

Since ever, the standard brick has a wide margin of
error. Besides there is no need to be exact, close enough
has been a common builders term since Stonehenge if not
earlier.

Ken Young
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: Inger E(NorahD)
Date: Jan 28, 2007 00:39

cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C4qdncBjBpUvNibYnZ2dnUVZ8sCvnZ2d@pipex.net...
> In article <7yIuh.30471$E02.12231@newsb.telia.net>,
> noninger_@telia.com (Inger E\(NorahD\)) wrote:
>
>> Do you mean that builders using inch aren't as exact?
>> If so why and since when?
>
> Since ever, the standard brick has a wide margin of
> error. Besides there is no need to be exact, close enough
> has been a common builders term since Stonehenge if not
> earlier.

If you can explain why those in your 'backyard' didn't have to be exact as
late as in early Modern Age, but those who built for example Cathedrals in
other part of Europe in Medieval Age had to as did those who built the
pyramids,
if you can explain that I might believe you. Up to that point not.
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: kenney
Date: Jan 28, 2007 04:09

In article newsb.telia.net>,
noninger_@telia.com (Inger E\(NorahD\)) wrote:
> If you can explain why those in your 'backyard' didn't
> have to be exact as late as in early Modern Age,

Walls are built using standard bricks. These are not
identical due to manufacturing tolerances. The length of a
wall is calculated by the number of bricks in a course,
variations in size are taken up by mortar. Builders put
far more effort into ensuring that each course is level
than worrying about the exact length.

Ken Young
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: Inger E(NorahD)
Date: Jan 28, 2007 06:25

cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xISdnYnGWvINDyHYRVnyhgA@pipex.net...
> In article newsb.telia.net>,
> noninger_@telia.com (Inger E\(NorahD\)) wrote:
>
>> If you can explain why those in your 'backyard' didn't
>> have to be exact as late as in early Modern Age,
>
> Walls are built using standard bricks. These are not
> identical due to manufacturing tolerances. The length of a
> wall is calculated by the number of bricks in a course,
> variations in size are taken up by mortar. Builders put
> far more effort into ensuring that each course is level
> than worrying about the exact length.
>
> Ken Young

Your opinion. Not the one expressed by builders.

Inger E
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: Doug Weller
Date: Jan 28, 2007 08:14

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:39:18 GMT, in sci.archaeology, Inger E(NorahD)
wrote:
>
>cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:C4qdncBjBpUvNibYnZ2dnUVZ8sCvnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> In article <7yIuh.30471$E02.12231@newsb.telia.net>,
>> noninger_@telia.com (Inger E\(NorahD\)) wrote...
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: Doug Weller
Date: Jan 28, 2007 08:17

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:25:18 GMT, in sci.archaeology, Inger E(NorahD)
wrote:
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: Jack Linthicum
Date: Jan 28, 2007 09:36

On Jan 28, 11:17 am, Doug Weller ramtops.removethis.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:25:18 GMT, in sci.archaeology, Inger E(NorahD)
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>>cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:xISdnYnGWvINDyHYRVnyhgA@pipex.net...
>>> In article newsb.telia.net>,
>>> noning...@telia.com (Inger E\(NorahD\)) wrote:
>
>>>> If you can explain why those in your 'backyard' didn't
>>>> have to be exact as late as in early Modern Age,
>
>>> Walls are built using standard bricks. These are not
>>> identical due to manufacturing tolerances. The length of a
>>> wall is calculated by the number of bricks in a course, ...
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: kenney
Date: Jan 28, 2007 09:51

In article <6vipr218a00ksioqm7jclt9rnre31obe3u@4ax.com>,
dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk (Doug Weller) wrote:
> Either you can't understand what Ken has written (just
> as you completely misunderstood what I wrote), or you
> are making it up as you go along.

Both probably, she has to be right.

Ken Young
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: Matt Giwer
Date: Jan 28, 2007 12:12

Inger E(NorahD) wrote:
> cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:xISdnYnGWvINDyHYRVnyhgA@pipex.net...
>> In article newsb.telia.net>,
>> noninger_@telia.com (Inger E\(NorahD\)) wrote:
>>
>>> If you can explain why those in your 'backyard' didn't
>>> have to be exact as late as in early Modern Age,
>> Walls are built using standard bricks. These are not
>> identical due to manufacturing tolerances. The length of a
>> wall is calculated by the number of bricks in a course,
>> variations in size are taken up by mortar. Builders put
>> far more effort into ensuring that each course is level
>> than worrying about the exact length.
> Your opinion. Not the one expressed by builders.

You have never seen bricks being laid. Level and vertical are constantly being
checked. Small errors at the bottom compound into large errors at the top.
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Re: Alignments of the Newport Tower         


Author: IE_Json
Date: Jan 29, 2007 00:51

Jack,
I have more knowledge of stone-work than Doug and you have. That's for sure.
I also have more knowledge of the need to have exact or almost exact sizes
of bricks when such are made!

I take it from your writing as well as Doug that neither of you worked with
tools for this. Well I have. Can't help to have when one have builders who
use them.

AND I know that the tower is made of what you call fieldstones. ARE you
stupid? Contrary to you two I wouldn't had entered this discussion in the
first place BEFORE I read what's available to read about the tower. What you
call bricks seems to be only fabricated bricks - well different countries
different exactness in buildings needed and definitely different usage of
the word 'brick'.
Btw. In December -06 I saw firsthanded what we call stone-bricks (made from
fieldstones) that my own grandfather had to go to Br
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