On Apr 23, 12:48 pm, Marc Verhaegen wrote:

Your thinking is so vague and sketchy it's almost indistinguishable
from conventional theory. Like Lee, Gerrrit, and Clark, you've never
had any real dispute with the perfectly sensible notion that early
hominids, both A'pith and HE, resided primarily in treed habitat. You
entitle your vague notions aquatic and those nitwits entitle their
vague notions savanna. None of you have a real evolutionary
hypothesis or a clue of how to begin towards such.

On Apr 24, 12:54 am, Claudius Denk sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 4:04 am, mclark comcast.net> wrote:

On Apr 24, 7:36 am, Claudius Denk sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Says the master of no-content posts:
1 Nobody lived on the savanna until the advent of jeeps and guns.
2 Lions evolved from saber-tooth cats.
3 Apiths never ventured more than 50/100 yds away from a...

I don't know what you're so nervous about. It's not like you have a
real hypothesis anyway.

So now you admit that spears could be useful for fishing. And I
suspect if I were to continue to poke at you long enough you'd also
eventually admit that spears could be useful in treed habitat also.
This being the case one can only wonder why it is you are so
insistent
that hominid evolution primarily involved a long distance running/
walking lifestyle in treeless savanna habitat. Can you explain this
to us?

Again: IMO:

Gracile apiths & aethiopicus = aquarboreal = vertical wading, hanging,
climbing, floating & possibly parttime Kwing, in swamp forests
http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=slideshow&type=figure&doi=
10.1371/journal.pbio.0030380&id=37960
http://biology.plosjournals.org/archive/1545-7885/3/11/figure/10.1371_journa
l.pbio.0030380.g001-L.jpg
Diet & locomotion overlapping with:
Robust apith = predom.bipedal wading & KWing in wetlands, feeding on AHV
(aq.herbaceous vegetation google "Ndoki gorilla)", papyrus, sedges &
waterside grasses (rice), possibly bamboo & not unlikely HSIs (hard-shelled
invertebrates, see Shabel 2007 & 2008 AAPA abstracts)

H.erectus is found amid marine & freshwater shells in river deltas (eg,
Mojokerto) & later river/lake-side, parttime diving for shellfish, probably
parttime wading for aq.vegetation, collecting eggs, possibly coconuts,
occasionally butchering turtles, whales, bovids etc.
H.floresiensis & H.georgicus seem to have had still arm-hanging adaptations.

On Apr 24, 9:19 am, Claudius Denk sbcglobal.net> wrote:

ROFL, like you do?

Su Solomon: "I did take the trouble to read your five thousand four
hundred words of
your latest manifesto. From my reading of this, I gathered that in
the
intevening 11 months you have not appeared to have read any of the
comments or advice that were given to you last time you posted an
extermely similiar 'unsubstantiated idea re evolution'. If you had
taken onboard any of the advised literature that was given at that
time,
then if is not evident in this latest of postings."

On Apr 24, 11:15 am, Marc Verhaegen wrote:

Speculative nonsense.

forestshttp://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=slideshow&type=figu...

On Apr 24, 11:26 am, Lee Olsen hotmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 24, 11:32 am, Claudius Denk sbcglobal.net> wrote:

1. Nobody lived on the savanna until the advent of jeeps and guns.
2. Lions evolved from saber-tooth cats.
3. Apiths never ventured more than 50/100 yds away from a tree.
4. Climate change is not happening...