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Author: Don KlipsteinDon Klipstein Date: Apr 25, 2008 21:22
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>"Don Klipstein" manx.misty.com> wrote in message
>news:slrng12a9m.dk4.don@manx.misty.com...>>>
>>>"George" wrote in message
>>>news:ydWdnS3VDu63Ko3VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com...>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> U.S. Rice is abundant. We grow twice as much rice as we eat. Sam's
>>>>>> Club
>>>>>> is rationing only ethnic rice. Ordinary long-grain, white rice is
>>>>>> cheaper than dirt - take as much as you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> That maybe the case in your area, but we couldn't find any either at
>>>>> the
>>>>> local Sam's Club or Costco stores. No Texas long grain or other type of
>>>>> rice. I'd checked Costo again yesterday, the shelves were empty of rice
>>>>> as usual for the last few weeks, lots of beans though, LOL. Rice prices
>>>>> are very high and if I'm not mistaken, it has already triple for the ...
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Author: Don KlipsteinDon Klipstein Date: Apr 25, 2008 21:26
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>"Norminn" earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>But...are there really people in the US who still eat lots of grains,
>>>>>corn,
>>>>>and rice? As a low-carber with a gluten sensitivity, I can't imagine
>>>>>that
>>>>>stuff fed to anything but livestock.
>>>>>
>>>> The low carb craze has increased grain demands by increasing demand for
>>>>livestock. Ethanol demand came in time to rescue grain farmers from the
>>>>decline of the low carb craze.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Wow. Eating a healthy diet is now a "craze"? You are aware that the hog
>>>fattening diet is exactly the same as the USDA's food pyramid except for
>>>one more serving of grain, right? Yeah, eating grain is good for you. ...
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Author: Don KlipsteinDon Klipstein Date: Apr 25, 2008 21:29
>I wish I could find soda with "sugar" in it; very few do
>anymore...instead it's the HFCS (another dead horse that's been beaten
>into the ground) which is worse.
HFCS is usually 55%% fructose 45%% glucose. Sucrose is half fructose half
glucose. I don't think the difference is great.
But soda in Canada usually has sucrose - they don't boycott Cuba so
sugar is cheaper in Canada.
- Don Klipstein (don@ misty.com)
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Author: Don KlipsteinDon Klipstein Date: Apr 25, 2008 21:37
In article comcast.com>, Frank wrote:>>>>
>>>> The low carb craze has increased grain demands by increasing demand
>>>> for livestock. Ethanol demand came in time to rescue grain farmers
>>>> from the decline of the low carb craze.
>>
>>> Wow. Eating a healthy diet is now a "craze"? You are aware that the hog
>>> fattening diet is exactly the same as the USDA's food pyramid except for
>>> one more serving of grain, right?
>>
>> Pig ignorant lie. There is no meat in the hog fattening diet. No veg
>> either.
>
>When farmers recycle the meat waste product back into the animal feed the
>consequence was mad cow disease. What do they do with the meat waste
>products now?
>
>>> Yeah, eating grain is good for you. Right. That's why so many Americans
>>> are orca fat.
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Author: Don KlipsteinDon Klipstein Date: Apr 25, 2008 21:42
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>"Cindy Hamilton" hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:5cc53294-5dca-4986-b9b0-91560a6ae95b@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>On Apr 24, 2:57 pm, wrote:
>>> But...are there really people in the US who still eat lots of grains,
>> corn,
>> and rice? As a low-carber with a gluten sensitivity, I can't imagine that
>> stuff fed to anything but livestock.
>
>>>Of course. What ivory tower do you live in? Carbohydrates are the
>>>staple food of millions of Americans.
>
>Yep. And that's why so many Americans are so fat.
Then how does that explain America continuing to get fatter when the low
carb craze came in, and low carbers failing to lose weight as much as
everyone else? And most of the few skinny Americans eating at Old
Country Buffet having their calorie intake mainly from carbs?
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Author: Don KlipsteinDon Klipstein Date: Apr 25, 2008 22:20
In w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
annezie wrote:
>I think growing a garden is the smart thing to do this year.
>
>I went and got some more plants today.
>
>About high prices: I have noticed that bread is a lot higher too. At
>least a dollar more per loaf here in Kentucky, which to me is a lot.
Even at today's high prices, the wheat in a loaf of bread costs about
20 cents or somewhat less.
If I understand right, wheat prices at the Chicago Board of Trade most
recently went for $8-$8.09 per bushel. (The price peaked in late
February, a bit over $12 at Chicago Board of Trade and about $17 at
Minneapolis Board of Trade IIUC.)
A bushel of wheat weighs 60 pounds. That has wheat costing about 8.3
cents per pound. A loaf of bread usually weighs 22-24 ounces, including
some added water.
I would encourange gardening to combat the inflation in whatever/whoever
is increasing the size of their slices of the pie.
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Author: PhredPhred Date: Apr 26, 2008 03:07
In article <5fSdnfr6-eZuy4_VnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@ earthlink.com>, "HeyBub" NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:>Rod Speed wrote:
>>In article <-cadne-FwOfHI4zVnZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@ earthlink.com>,
>>"HeyBub" NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:[snip]
>>
>>> Current technology does not favor "grass" type crops, including
>>> hemp, 'switch-grass' and others. The problem is the enormous cost of
>>> transporting the raw materials to the processing plant.
>>
>> Have fun explaining how come sugar cane works fine.
>
>Sugar cane is not a "grass" type crop - Duh!
Hey Bub, I'm afraid you've left me a bit confused. Sugar cane is a
grass, so I don't see what you're getting at here.
On the other hand hemp is *not* a grass, nor even a ' "grass" type'.
It's a dicot; grasses are monocots. Pretty fundamental difference.
Cheers, Phred.
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Author: Kurt UllmanKurt Ullman Date: Apr 26, 2008 05:55
In article comcast.com>,
" Frank" nothome.net> wrote:
> When farmers recycle the meat waste product back into the animal feed the
> consequence was mad cow disease. What do they do with the meat waste
> products now?
>
Brain and spinal cord (hardly all meat waste) is what causes problems
with mad cow.
>
> six times more bad cholesterol and fat than grass fed beef. It worries me
> when super strong pesticides kill the toughest weeds but couldn't touch the
> corn stocks.
Why? Pesticides interfere with certain processes going on in weeds
that aren't going in corn stocks. You get upset when strong pesticides
kill the toughest weeds but leave your lawn grass alone. You worried
about how antibiotics kill the toughest germs but leave you alive? Same
principle.
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Author: Kurt UllmanKurt Ullman Date: Apr 26, 2008 05:56
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>> I can't think of any.
>
> Your problem.
From your reply apparently the same one you have. I loved the late
inclusion of the "depends".
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Author: Kurt UllmanKurt Ullman Date: Apr 26, 2008 06:07
> Hogs get fat from high calorie intake. Keep in mind that when the low
> carb craze was expanding, America's waistlines and diabetes rates
> continued expanding.
>
But that is a function of market share than anything else. The low
carb "craze" still did not come close to involving even a plurality of
the entire citizenry or even large minority. Never have seen a
study/survey, etc., indicating that more than 20%% or so of obese (or
even just overweight)) Americans were on ANY diet. So, the amount of
newsprint generated by a diet, doesn't really have any correlation with
how many people are on it.
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