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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: ranck
Date: Apr 25, 2008 10:51

In misc.consumers.frugal-living Seerialmom yahoo.com> wrote:
> I wish I could find soda with "sugar" in it; very few do
> anymore...instead it's the HFCS (another dead horse that's been beaten

Coca-Cola that is "Kosher for Passover" will have cane sugar
and no corn syrup of any kind. They put a different color cap
on it. Should be available right now, if you hurry.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: Bert Hyman
Date: Apr 25, 2008 10:54

In
news:42afee40-6b3f-4b3b-aa4b-fb9c243d2ea0@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com
Seerialmom yahoo.com> wrote:
> I wish I could find soda with "sugar" in it; very few do
> anymore...instead it's the HFCS (another dead horse that's been beaten
> into the ground) which is worse.

Coke that's certified Kosher for Passover should be sweetened with sugar
only. In fact, any softdrink that's Kosher for Passover that's sweetened
(not artificially) should use only sugar.

This is the time of year to look for it.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: Seerialmom
Date: Apr 25, 2008 11:21

On Apr 25, 10:51 am, ra...@vt.edu wrote:
> In misc.consumers.frugal-living Seerialmom yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I wish I could find soda with "sugar" in it; very few do
>> anymore...instead it's the HFCS (another dead horse that's been beaten
>
> Coca-Cola that is "Kosher for Passover" will have cane sugar
> and no corn syrup of any kind.  They put a different color cap
> on it.  Should be available right now, if you hurry.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.

I saw them at Costco I believe. Only one problem I have with it..it's
Coca-Cola and not Pepsi :p But I practice my own method of limiting
how much HFCS I get in my Pepsi by only drinking 1 - 8oz can a day
with lots of ice (5 days a week...tops). Jones Cola also has
sugar...but dang...way too expensive and sold mostly at Cost Plus.
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: Seerialmom
Date: Apr 25, 2008 13:36

On Apr 25, 10:42 am, Cindy Hamilton hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:57 pm, wrote:
>
>> But...are there really people in the US who still eat lots of grains, corn,
>> and rice? As a low-carber with a gluten sensitivity, I can't imagine that
>> stuff fed to anything but livestock.
>
> Of course.  What ivory tower do you live in?  Carbohydrates are the
> staple
> food of millions of Americans.
>
> Mmmm.  Nice chewy, crusty bread.  With real butter.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

That's one of my definite weaknesses; fresh "Dutch Crust" bread with
butter. But it's only bought when it's on sale (reminds me, I keep
telling myself to look for a recipe, bread isn't that hard to make
from scratch).
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: Rod Speed
Date: Apr 25, 2008 13:37

HeyBub NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> aspasia wrote:
>> Or rather corn ethanol demand was craftily engineered by influential
>> agribusinessmen in certain "heartland" states, shoveling out their
>> contributions to our beloved Congress-whores. They did not care what
>> ripple effects this would create in the Third World, where people are
>> now starving. Effects even felt in our neighbor to the South, where
>> the price of corn went through the ceiling, affecting tortillas -- a
>> standard food, like wheat bread in the States.
> There has never been a famine in a democracy.

Wrong.
>> Nobody bothered to check with knowledgeable scientists as to the
>> state of ethanol fuel technology . Not that it would have deterred
>> the cynical profiteers if they *had* run the science. (Incidentally,
>> there are so many crops that would be far better, with less
>> downside, for fuel technology, leading off with marijuana's little
>> cousin, hemp. It grows on any soil, reseeds itself, costs virtually
>> nothing to produce. Even Brazil, that was using sugar cane waste, is
>> reconsidering the technology.)
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: sam
Date: Apr 25, 2008 13:39

h wrote:
> "Don Klipstein" manx.misty.com> wrote in message
> news:slrng12a9m.dk4.don@manx.misty.com...
>> In article <4810d69e$0$30157$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, h wrote:
>>>
>>> "George" wrote in message
>>> news:ydWdnS3VDu63Ko3VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> U.S. Rice is abundant. We grow twice as much rice as we eat.
>>>>>> Sam's Club
>>>>>> is rationing only ethnic rice. Ordinary long-grain, white rice is
>>>>>> cheaper than dirt - take as much as you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> That maybe the case in your area, but we couldn't find any either
>>>>> at the
>>>>> local Sam's Club or Costco stores. No Texas long grain or other
>>>>> type of rice. I'd checked Costo again yesterday, the shelves were
>>>>> empty of rice as usual for the last few weeks, lots of beans
>>>>> though, LOL. Rice prices are very high and if I'm not mistaken,
>>>>> it has already triple for the year. ...
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: Kurt Ullman
Date: Apr 25, 2008 14:08

In article <67etoeF1v1s8pU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" gmail.com> wrote:
> HeyBub NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> aspasia wrote:
>
>>> Or rather corn ethanol demand was craftily engineered by influential
>>> agribusinessmen in certain "heartland" states, shoveling out their
>>> contributions to our beloved Congress-whores. They did not care what
>>> ripple effects this would create in the Third World, where people are
>>> now starving. Effects even felt in our neighbor to the South, where
>>> the price of corn went through the ceiling, affecting tortillas -- a
>>> standard food, like wheat bread in the States.
>
>> There has never been a famine in a democracy.
>
> Wrong.

Name one, if you would be so kind. I can't think of any.
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: Dave Bugg
Date: Apr 25, 2008 14:12

Kurt Ullman wrote:
> In article <67etoeF1v1s8pU1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Rod Speed" gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> HeyBub NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>> aspasia wrote:
>>
>>>> Or rather corn ethanol demand was craftily engineered by
>>>> influential agribusinessmen in certain "heartland" states,
>>>> shoveling out their contributions to our beloved Congress-whores.
>>>> They did not care what ripple effects this would create in the
>>>> Third World, where people are now starving. Effects even felt in
>>>> our neighbor to the South, where the price of corn went through
>>>> the ceiling, affecting tortillas -- a standard food, like wheat
>>>> bread in the States.
>>
>>> There has never been a famine in a democracy.
>>
>> Wrong.
> ...
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: mkirsch1
Date: Apr 25, 2008 14:19

On Apr 24, 3:34 am, jtnos...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The per usual republicrat farm socialism has created food supply
> chaos, subsidized corn for ethanol fuel has crowded out other food
> crops, speculators abroad have taken their bales of dollarpesos and
> bought out our wheat supplies so that we'll have to re-import at a
> higher price. Gov't. has paid southeast Texas farmers to raise
> livestock instead of rice, now Sam's Club and Costco are rationing it.
> So I tossed the ornamental plants and have planted corn, beans,
> peppers, and tomatoes, maybe carrots next. I recommend others do the
> same this season in their backyards if they have them. I don't think
> there will be acute food shortages this year in the USA, but grocery
> prices are high and getting higher. It will also save the fossile...
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Re: Food shortage ethanol follies, I've planted a food garden.         


Author: Dave Bugg
Date: Apr 25, 2008 15:10

mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
> On Apr 24, 3:34 am, jtnos...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The per usual republicrat farm socialism has created food supply
>> chaos, subsidized corn for ethanol fuel has crowded out other food
>> crops, speculators abroad have taken their bales of dollarpesos and
>> bought out our wheat supplies so that we'll have to re-import at a
>> higher price. Gov't. has paid southeast Texas farmers to raise
>> livestock instead of rice, now Sam's Club and Costco are rationing
>> it. So I tossed the ornamental plants and have planted corn, beans,
>> peppers, and tomatoes, maybe carrots next. I recommend others do the
>> same this season in their backyards if they have them. I don't think
>> there will be acute food shortages this year in the USA, but grocery
>> prices are high...
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