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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: William.Mook
Date: Jul 6, 2006 19:20

Eeyore wrote:
> William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> United States Patent Application 20050051205
>> Kind Code A1
>> Mook, William H. JR. March 10, 2005
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling
>>
>> Abstract
>> Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
>> utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
>> conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
>> carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
>> impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
>> dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
>> effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
>> or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
>> those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined ...
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern         


Author: Eeyore
Date: Jul 6, 2006 15:37

William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
> United States Patent Application 20050051205
> Kind Code A1
> Mook, William H. JR. March 10, 2005
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Solar based...
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: William.Mook
Date: Jul 6, 2006 15:29

United States Patent Application 20050051205
Kind Code A1
Mook, William H. JR. March 10, 2005

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

This is but one of my patent applications on this subject...
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: William.Mook
Date: Jul 6, 2006 15:07

Lloyd Parker wrote:
> In article news-int.gatech.edu>,
> david.bostwick@chemistry.gatech.edu (David Bostwick) wrote:
>>In article <44AD0792.9514FBA1@REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, Eeyore
> REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> But, replace that $3 per kg hydrogen with $0.23 per kg hydrogen and see
>>>> what happens!
>>>
>>>Where's the cheap hydrogen going to come from ?
>>>
>>>Graham
>>>
>>
>>They'll pass a law.
>
> Bush will invade a country with lots of hydrogen. Hey, isn't hydrogen a ...
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: William.Mook
Date: Jul 6, 2006 15:02

Oz wrote:
> William.Mook@gmail.com writes
>>Accenture told us that we had the potential of attracting negative
>>attention of the major oil companies.
>
> hahahahaha!
>
> If its remotely any good then they will be fighting to make you an offer
> you cannot resist!

Depends on the details. Just because we can make money, doesn't mean
we can make more money than a conventional oil company per barrel. So,
that's a factor.

There are risk factors to consider as well at this point.

There is definitely an execution risk associated with any investment of
this type by the majors at this time. Deal structure is important, and
how the deal is presented is also important. Understanding THEIR
business is more important then THEY understanding us. If the deal
looks and feels like a typical field development - there is a level of
comfort not present in other sorts of structures.
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: William.Mook
Date: Jul 6, 2006 14:50

David Bostwick wrote:
> In article <1152201639.864325.49860@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>David Bostwick wrote:
>>> In article <44AD0792.9514FBA1@REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, Eeyore
>> REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But, replace that $3 per kg hydrogen with $0.23 per kg hydrogen and see
>>>>> what happens!
>>>>
>>>>Where's the cheap hydrogen going to come from ?
>>>>
>>>>Graham
>>>>
>>>
>>> They'll pass a law.
>> ...
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: William.Mook
Date: Jul 6, 2006 14:39

David Bostwick wrote:
> In article <1152200962.567822.166370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>We already control the land dude, and have the patents, I can send you
>>our plant layout, and detailed design drawings if you wish, and photos
>>of our laboratory scale prototypes. You are being pointlessly hard-ass
>>just because you think it makes you look smart! lol. In reality,
>>you're not being very smart at all. You're just being a smart -ass!
>>lol.
>
> So quit laughing and do it.

Why can't I laugh while I do things I love?
> Talk is cheap,

You would know! lol.
> especially when it's full of
> statements that contain "if only",

didn't use that here dude.
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: William.Mook
Date: Jul 6, 2006 14:19

Eeyore wrote:
> William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>> William.Mook@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> But, replace that $3 per kg hydrogen with $0.23 per kg hydrogen and see
>>>> what happens!
>>>
>>> Where's the cheap hydrogen going to come from ?
>>>
>>> Graham
>>
>> Electrolysis of water using cheap solar panels.
>
> No such thing. Nor ever likely to be ! PV electricity is shockingly *expensive*
> !
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: LongmuirG
Date: Jul 6, 2006 10:37

Oz wrote about Mok Industries solar plans:
> If anyone of any importance believed your figures they you wouldn't need
> to worry about SPR or USAf or USN because you would be buried in venture
> capital ...

Study history, Oz! Lots of examples of difficulties in launching new
concepts. When Ross Perot started EDS with the (then) revolutionary
idea of selling integrated business solutions, he was IBM's most
successful salesman but he could not even sell IBM on the idea. He got
doors slammed in his face something like 70 times before he made his
first sale. Then went on to make billions.

As for the idea others have suggested that evil oil companies would buy
up the technology and hide it
-- giant ExxonMobil is now only the 16th
largest oil company in the world ranked on reserves, with less than 1%
of global oil reserves. Western shareholder-owned oil companies do not
have a long-term sustainable business model -- and the smart ones know
it.
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  Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol inmodern agriculture         


Author: Oz
Date: Jul 6, 2006 09:58

William.Mook@gmail.com writes
>I want the SPR and USAF and USN to buy syncrude and jet fuel from
>me in serious quantities. lol. This will kick start our operation.

If anyone of any importance believed your figures they you wouldn't need
to worry about SPR or USAf or USN because you would be buried in venture
capital and have several me-too outfits competing with you (since I
doubt much of this is covered worrysomly by current patents).

Strange, then, that you aren't....

--
Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
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