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Author: Leon
Date: Mar 23, 2008 13:02

Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
CMS. The answer has almost always been, it cannot be done with great
results. Many have shown devised setups that seem to work well but is it
also reported that regardless of how well these modifications work there is
still a pretty good mess to clean up. On top of that, the collector is most
often stationary or part of a stationary stand.
Changing direction for a bit here it has often been mentioned the seemingly
excessive expense of certain brand tools and how the expense would prevent a
person from ever considering that brand. As true with anything the initial
cost of purchasing a tool will always be out of someone's price range. At
one time PC products were a stretch for me, fortunately I have over come
that obstacle.
Back on topic, I was watching "Ask" This Old House today and noticed Tommy
using a new tool. In recent months Tommy has been using a lot of new tools
and not too coincidentally they are of the same brand. Is he or Ask TOH
using a new sponsor? I have not seen credits going to this company nor does
a search of this company on the "Ask" TOH web site turn up any results. Of
all the wood working shows and talented professionals on these type shows I
have never heard any discouraging words that would indicate that he does not
carry the respect of most any wood worker. ...
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Re: Things to come?         


Author: mark
Date: Mar 23, 2008 13:25

"Leon" swbell.net> wrote in message
news:fHyFj.4425$qT6.3525@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
> CMS. The answer has almost always been, it cannot be done with great
> results. Many have shown devised setups that seem to work well but is it
> also reported that regardless of how well these modifications work there
> is still a pretty good mess to clean up. On top of that, the collector is
> most often stationary or part of a stationary stand.
> Changing direction for a bit here it has often been mentioned the
> seemingly excessive expense of certain brand tools and how the expense
> would prevent a person from ever considering that brand. As true with
> anything the initial cost of purchasing a tool will always be out of
> someone's price range. At one time PC products were a stretch for me,
> fortunately I have over come that obstacle.
> Back on topic, I was watching "Ask" This Old House today and noticed Tommy
> using a new tool. In recent months Tommy has been using a lot of new
> tools and not too coincidentally they are of the same brand. Is he or Ask
> TOH using a new sponsor? I have not seen credits going to this company
> nor does a search of this company on the "Ask" TOH web site turn up any
> results. Of all the wood working shows and talented professionals on ...
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Re: Things to come?         


Author: FrozenNorth
Date: Mar 23, 2008 13:41

Leon took a can of maroon spray paint on March 23, 2008 04:02 pm and wrote
the following:
> Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
> CMS. The answer has almost always been, it cannot be done with great
> results. Many have shown devised setups that seem...
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Author: mark
Date: Mar 23, 2008 13:55

"FrozenNorth" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Leon took a can of maroon spray paint on March 23, 2008 04:02 pm and wrote
> the following:
>
>> Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
>> CMS. The answer has almost always been, it cannot be done with great
>> results. Many have shown devised setups that seem to work well but is it
>> also reported that regardless of how well these modifications work there
>> is
>> still a pretty good mess to clean up. On top of that, the collector is
>> most often stationary or part of a stationary stand.
>> Changing direction for a bit here it has often been mentioned the
>> seemingly excessive expense of certain brand tools and how the expense
>> would prevent a
>> person from ever considering that brand. As true with anything the
>> initial
>> cost of purchasing a tool will always be out of someone's price range.
>> At one time PC products were a stretch for me, fortunately I have over
>> come that obstacle. ...
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Re: Things to come?         


Date: Mar 23, 2008 14:00

Was this the saw?
http://www.festool.net/mediandoweb/index.cfm?sLanguage=English&ID_O_TREE_GROUP=5170&PARENT...
Seems that it is available in Germany.
Click on the magnifier.

Leon wrote:
> Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
> CMS. The answer has almost always been, it cannot be done with great
> results. Many have shown devised setups...
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Re: Things to come?         


Author: FrozenNorth
Date: Mar 23, 2008 14:27

mark took a can of maroon spray paint on March 23, 2008 04:55 pm and wrote
the following:
>
> "FrozenNorth" gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2216732.c9fSKf8YEe@frozennorth.to...
>> Leon took a can of maroon spray paint on March 23, 2008 04:02 pm and
>> wrote the following...
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Re: Things to come?         


Author: Leuf
Date: Mar 23, 2008 14:52

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:02:18 -0500, "Leon"
swbell.net> wrote:
>Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
>CMS. The answer has almost always been, it cannot be done with great
>results.

Honestly I think all the manufacturers to this point just stick a hole
for a vacuum at the top of the guard and didn't put one iota into
actually making it work. On my Bosch it can work half decent on thick
material, 2x4s and the like. Anything thinner and I can see the dust
go shooting right by the sides of the guard. If it just had more of a
scoop to it at the bottom it would work. That's what it looks like to
me on the Festool. It's also way WAY too constricted on the Bosch, it
sounds like a freight train when I turn on the vac. So I don't think
this is any particularly monumental invention, just someone spent more
than 5 minutes on the dust collection.
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Author: Leon
Date: Mar 23, 2008 15:12

"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Was this the saw?
> http://www.festool.net/mediandoweb/index.cfm?sLanguage=English&ID_O_TREE_GROUP=5170&PARENT...
> Seems that it is available in Germany.
> Click on the magnifier.

That is probably it however the view I always saw was from the right side of
the saw.
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Author: Jim Hall
Date: Mar 23, 2008 15:20

I noticed the saw too .. but it seemed underpowered and bogged down when
cutting.. That's what caught my attention..

"Leon" swbell.net> wrote in message
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> Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
> CMS. The answer...
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Re: Things to come?         


Author: Leon
Date: Mar 23, 2008 15:26

"Leuf" dontemailme.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:02:18 -0500, "Leon"
> swbell.net> wrote:
>
>
> And yes, Tommy can't go 5 minutes without breaking out a Festool toy.
> It's the only time he actually gets his hands dirty anymore. I know
> PBS has some rules about advertising so you aren't going to hear
> anything actually spoken about it, but gone are the days when they
> taped over all the manufacturers names.

I am not sure what the restrictions on PBS would be as Delta and Porter
Cable, Miniwax, Vermont American, GMC etc. open TOH and NYW always open the
show in Houston.
Additionally PBS or not, the This Old House web site does not mention
Festool but mentions Craftsman and other brand tools.

IIRC the restrictions that got Bob in trouble was him being paid for ads out
side of TOH, working for Sears.
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