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how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: interuser
Date: Jun 10, 2008 12:55

Hi I have a wooden oak door .
It is the main entrance door to my home.
The door faces east and so it gets hot by the summer morning heat.
In the winter it may get a bit wet by the rain.
The door consists of pieces glued together.
Two of these pieces are now detached up to the point where sunlight
passes through the door.
Their gap is about 1/8" or .25 cm wide and 2 feet (60 cmd) long.
Is there a way to fill this gap?
I tried using water based stucco but the next day it cracked.
Thanks
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: Chris Friesen
Date: Jun 10, 2008 13:08

interuser wrote:
> Their gap is about 1/8" or .25 cm wide and 2 feet (60 cmd) long.
> Is there a way to fill this gap?

The best option is probably to use epoxy. Not sure how well it would
stick with the stucco residue in there though...

Chris
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: Max
Date: Jun 10, 2008 13:47

"interuser" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10e5aadc-e294-45d0-9a21-445ea85b9a75@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> Hi I have a wooden oak door .
> It is the main entrance door to my home.
> The door faces east and so it gets hot by the summer morning heat.
> In the winter it may get a bit wet by the rain.
> The door consists of pieces glued together.
> Two of these pieces are now detached up to the point where sunlight
> passes through the door.
> Their gap is about 1/8" or .25 cm wide and 2 feet (60 cmd) long.
> Is there a way to fill this gap?
> I tried using water based stucco but the next day it cracked.
> Thanks

Minwax wood filler.
http://tinyurl.com/5w3lmy
Be sure to get the Minwax "wood hardener" also.

pictures before and after a patch.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdinep/

Max ( I have no connection with Minwax except to use their product)
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: Tom B
Date: Jun 10, 2008 14:26

Is the crack along the line where two of the pieces were glued
together (the glue line) or is it in the middle of one of the
"pieces"? Has the door warped or shrunk, or just a couple of the
boards that make it up? How thick are the boards? Do you care if the
crack fill looks like Oak? Based on your attempt at using WB stucco, I
guess not.

The real problem here is not just filling the crack, but stopping the
next crack from starting. Almost anything you fill it with probably
won't have adhesion to the wood as strong as the original wood was
structurally, so you've got to stop whatever caused it as well as
filling it or be prepared to fill it (or another) again later. If the
crack is along an original glue line, the above may not apply as the
glue could have failed, not the wood - but 2.5mm is a pretty fat glue
line!

In any case, a good epoxy will fill the crack. Use a needle file or
hacksaw blade or sandpaper to clean out the stucco and any weathered
wood inside the crack at the faces. Try to get to raw wood.

I'm lazy, so my methods are adapted to that failing. I'd back the
crack on the inside with a strip of wax paper (maybe 1/2 wide) held on
with masking tape. Kids plastic clay is an alternative. Anything...
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: Lowell Holmes
Date: Jun 10, 2008 15:34

"interuser" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10e5aadc-e294-45d0-9a21-445ea85b9a75@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> Hi I have a wooden oak door .
> It is the main entrance door to my home.
> The door faces east and so it gets hot by the summer morning heat.
> In the winter it may get a bit wet by the rain.
> The door consists of pieces glued together.
> Two of these pieces are now detached up to the point where sunlight
> passes through the door.
> Their gap is about 1/8" or .25 cm wide and 2 feet (60 cmd) long.
> Is there a way to fill this gap?
> I tried using water based stucco but the next day it cracked.
> Thanks

This is really off the wall. If it is a raised panel door, I would consider
removing the split panel and then routing the inside molded edge on the
inside of the door. This would leave the inside edge smooth and square. When
you put the new panel in, it would be held in place with an applied molding
matching the pattern on the door.
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: B A R R Y
Date: Jun 10, 2008 16:18

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:55:25 -0700 (PDT), interuser
hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hi I have a wooden oak door .
>It is the main entrance door to my home.
>The door faces east and so it gets hot by the summer morning heat.
>In the winter it may get a bit wet by the rain.
>The door consists of pieces glued together.
>Two of these pieces are now detached up to the point where sunlight
>passes through the door.
>Their gap is about 1/8" or .25 cm wide and 2 feet (60 cmd) long.
>Is there a way to fill this gap?

Personally, I'd use tinted epoxy. Small amounts of artist's oil
colors make a great tint medium.

If the door is a dark color, I'd probably tint the epoxy black. I
use black about 80%% of the time I fill with epoxy. Otherwise, I'd
use a raw and burnt sienna to create a shade darker than the wood.

You may need multiple applications to completely fill the crack.

Mix up the shade on scrap before you do the real door.
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: Lew Hodgett
Date: Jun 10, 2008 17:21

"interuser" wrote:
> Hi I have a wooden oak door .
> It is the main entrance door to my home.
> The door faces east and so it gets hot by the summer morning heat.
> In the winter it may get a bit wet by the rain.
> The door consists of pieces glued together.
> Two of these pieces are now detached up to the point where sunlight
> passes through the door.
> Their gap is about 1/8" or .25 cm wide and 2 feet (60 cmd) long.
> Is there a way to fill this gap?
> I tried using water based stucco but the next day it cracked.

Too many questions unanswered to respond.

Is the door finished natural or painted?

Is the crack thru a piece of wood or did the glue line let loose?

Are you still able to freely open and close the door?

What is the overall condition of the door?

Are there other parts of the door that require attention?

Do you have the necessary clamps to do a repair?

All of the above have an effect on how you approach the problem.
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: andreas.manoli
Date: Jun 11, 2008 11:56

On Jun 11, 3:21 am, "Lew Hodgett" verizon.net> wrote:
> "interuser" wrote:
>> Hi I have a wooden oak door .
>> It is the main entrance door to my home.
>> The door faces east and so it gets hot by the summer morning heat.
>> In the winter it may get a bit wet by the rain.
>> The door consists of pieces glued together.
>> Two of these pieces are now detached up to the point where sunlight
>> passes through the door.
>> Their gap is about 1/8" or .25 cm wide and 2 feet (60 cmd) long.
>> Is there a way to fill this gap?
>> I tried using water based stucco but the next day it cracked.
>
> Too many questions unanswered to respond.
>
> Is the door finished natural or painted?
Natural finished and varnished
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: Lew Hodgett
Date: Jun 12, 2008 12:24

gmail.com> wrote:
> Too many questions unanswered to respond.
>
> Is the door finished natural or painted?
Natural finished and varnished
>
> Is the crack thru a piece of wood or did the glue line let loose?
The glue line got loose
>
> Are you still able to freely open and close the door?
Door is fine. The door consists of a "sceleton" into which 2 panels
are fitted. The lower panel is the panel in question: The glue line of
the boards that consist the panel got loose.
>
> What is the overall condition of the door?
It is otherwise ok.
>
> Are there other parts of the door that require attention?
Well, a minor crack in the above mentioned "sceleton"
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Re: how do I fix a wide crack?         


Author: sheldon.mandel
Date: Jun 12, 2008 21:12

same as what everybody else said, with one addition: drill and fill
holes at the ends of the crack to stop futher splitting

shelly
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