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Author: nospambobnospambob Date: Aug 19, 2006 05:42
Previous owner had land graded for a workshop but didn't follow
through to build it. Currently try to do woodworking work around
inadequate space and electrical capability in cramped half of small 2
car garage. Electricians don't return calls to upgrade garage by
adding 2-3 new circuits and wood frame builders react the same. A
builder of metal buildings has visited and called back with answers so
we're considering going with him.
Would like users observations both sides of the fence and would they
do it again type of comments. Cabinets on walls could be made to be
free standing if screws into the frame aren't viable. Double car door
and personnel door and three windows are minimum at this time.
Air/heat required in Augusta, Georgia area. Septic for half bath and
sink are no problem as we can't connect to the existing one.
Four duplex receptacles and garage door opener plus one ceiling light
all on a 13A circuit. A 12K window air conditioner is all that should
be on that circuit at one time but I have sneaked the lathe on without
popping the breaker but shop vac pops it in no time.
Anxiously waiting comments! TIA!!
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Author: prfesserprfesser Date: Aug 19, 2006 07:22
> Previous owner had land graded for a workshop but didn't follow
> through to build it. Currently try to do woodworking work around
> inadequate space and electrical capability in cramped half of small 2
> car garage. Electricians don't return calls to upgrade garage by
> adding 2-3 new circuits and wood frame builders react the same. A
> builder of metal buildings has visited and called back with answers so
> we're considering going with him.
>
> Would like users observations both sides of the fence and would they
> do it again type of comments. Cabinets on walls could be made to be
> free standing if screws into the frame aren't viable. Double car door
> and personnel door and three windows are minimum at this time.
> Air/heat required in Augusta, Georgia area. Septic for half bath and
> sink are no problem as we can't connect to the existing one.
>
> Four duplex receptacles and garage door opener plus one ceiling light
> all on a 13A circuit. A 12K window air conditioner is all that should
> be on that circuit at one time but I have sneaked the lathe on without
> popping the breaker but shop vac pops it in no time. ...
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Author: RemodGuyRemodGuy Date: Aug 19, 2006 07:36
> Wire is cheap,
> boxes are cheap, breakers are cheap. >
> Best -- Terry
Where do you live that wire is cheap? It's gone up almost 400% here in
the last year.
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Author: prfesserprfesser Date: Aug 19, 2006 11:58
RemodGuy wrote:
>> Wire is cheap,
>> boxes are cheap, breakers are cheap. >
>> Best -- Terry
>
> Where do you live that wire is cheap? It's gone up almost 400% here in
> the last year.
I just checked Lowe's and 100' of 12 gauge with ground is $59. The
price I recall is $20, so clearly you're correct, wire appears to have
gone up quite a bit.
However, the original poster indicated that he was having a metal
building erected, he wants heat & air, storage, windows, garage door
opener, etc. What's the cost? (I honestly don't know) $4000? If
that's a decent ballpark estimate, an extra $120 of materials for two
more 20 A circuits seems a trivial addition. And a wise investment.
The purpose of a shop is to house tools to be used. The more tools the
better; remember, he who dies with the most toys wins. :-) Lots of
capacity is probably a good thing.
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Author: RemodGuyRemodGuy Date: Aug 19, 2006 14:11
> RemodGuy wrote:
>>> Wire is cheap,
>>> boxes are cheap, breakers are cheap. >
>>> Best -- Terry
>>
>> Where do you live that wire is cheap? It's gone up almost 400% here in
>> the last year.
>
> I just checked Lowe's and 100' of 12 gauge with ground is $59. The
> price I recall is $20, so clearly you're correct, wire appears to have
> gone up quite a bit.
>
> However, the original poster indicated that he was having a metal
> building erected, he wants heat & air, storage, windows, garage door
> opener, etc. What's the cost? (I honestly don't know) $4000? If
> that's a decent ballpark estimate, an extra $120 of materials for two
> more 20 A circuits seems a trivial addition. And a wise investment.
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Author: hallerbhallerb Date: Aug 19, 2006 15:04
I am in the middle of a shop rewire. My concern is accidently leaving
something on like a soldering iron that might cause a fire.
So my shop light circuit will be connected to some heavy duty
contactors basically relays, that will turn EVERYTHING but one outlet
off with the lights.
I have a friend who did the same after finding his soldering iron HOT
after a weeks vacation:(
I will have 6 20 amp breakers, I use the shop for work fixing
laminating machines they draw lots of power
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Author: komobukomobu Date: Aug 19, 2006 16:53
Please reply with what you decide to do. I currently live in Korea and
will be moving back to Va in January. My first project will be to build
a 28*32 automotive workshop in the backyard. I will build it my self
and am currently debating between wood studs and metal. I was told that
the cement slab for the workshop will be approximately 20k. I never
thought it would cost that much. As for the metal workshops, I saw many
on ebay for about 7k. Here is a link for one that is 25'*30*10.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AmerDuro-Steel-Building-25x30x10-Metal-Buildings_W0QQite...
It would kind of like a loft for storage of stuff though, so I am not
sure what I will do.
Take Care
Pat
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Author: komobukomobu Date: Aug 19, 2006 17:41
Here is what I was told...Keep in mind, I am checking stuff out over
the internet until I can get back to Va.
START QUOTED MESSAGE
I'm a licensed home builder & foundation contractor in Alabama and I've
got an hour at kill, so here's your own D-I-Y manual. To answer the
question directly at face value, assuming...
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Author: Pete C.Pete C. Date: Aug 19, 2006 18:59
RemodGuy wrote:
>> RemodGuy wrote:
>>>> Wire is cheap,
>>>> boxes are cheap, breakers are cheap. >
>>>> Best -- Terry
>>>
>>> Where do you live that wire is cheap? It's gone up almost 400% here in
>>> the last year.
>>
>> I just checked Lowe's and 100' of 12 gauge with ground is $59. The
>> price I recall is $20, so clearly you're correct, wire appears to have
>> gone up quite a bit.
>>
>> However, the original poster indicated that he was having a metal
>> building erected, he wants heat & air, storage, windows, garage door
>> opener, etc. What's the cost? (I honestly don't know) $4000? If
>> that's a decent ballpark estimate, an extra $120 of materials for two
>> more 20 A circuits seems a trivial addition. And a wise investment. ...
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Author: foggytownfoggytown Date: Aug 20, 2006 07:02
> Previous owner had land graded for a workshop but didn't follow
> through to build it. Currently try to do woodworking work around
> inadequate space and electrical capability in cramped half of small 2
> car garage. Electricians don't return calls to upgrade garage by
> adding 2-3 new circuits and wood frame builders react the same. A
> builder of metal buildings has visited and called back with answers so
> we're considering going with him.
>
> Would like users observations both sides of the fence and would they
> do it again type of comments. Cabinets on walls could be made to be
> free standing if screws into the frame aren't viable. Double car door
> and personnel door and three windows are minimum at this time.
> Air/heat required in Augusta, Georgia area. Septic for half bath and
> sink are no problem as we can't connect to the existing one.
>
> Four duplex receptacles and garage door opener plus one ceiling light
> all on a 13A circuit. A 12K window air conditioner is all that should
> be on that circuit at one time but I have sneaked the lathe on without
> popping the breaker but shop vac pops it in no time. ...
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